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In the Age of Obama, there has been a meme: Who are the rubes? The genius', who've supported Obama have labeled the Tea Party, the Palins, the bitter clingers as the rubes; backward, bigots and usually unwashed. But these folks never believed Obama, the media or the Democrat Party.

Ron Fournier is only the latest among those who have outted themselves in a self-beclowning ritual about how Obama lied to them. To those, who have spent so much time and work supporting Obama and he re-payed them by lying to THEM!! Black Americans have voted for Obama out of racial solidarity twice at over 95% and these are the same people who have been most damaged by Obamanomics.

Who are the rubes? Those who were never taken in by the lies or those who believed Obama?

1 posted on 11/15/2014 9:09:13 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt
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To: Jabba the Nutt

The left bought it hook line and sinker.


2 posted on 11/15/2014 9:12:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

You raise a good point. Washington is a bubble. Its a self-enclosed talking circle of politicians, bureaucrats and media.

The lie was for others in the bubble. Not that they necessarily believed the lie either, but rather, to have something they could point to and say: “see - look what the experts have created.”


3 posted on 11/15/2014 9:13:52 AM PST by PGR88
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"First, we Gruber and bankrupt Massachusetts,
and then impose Death Panels and Gruber them to Death."

"At the foundation of our civil liberties lies
the principle that denies to government officials
an exceptional position before the law and which
subjects them to the same rules of conduct
that are commands to the citizen."

Justice Louis D. Brandeis

4 posted on 11/15/2014 9:14:16 AM PST by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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5 posted on 11/15/2014 9:17:56 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Good point! When the Democrat Party Operatives showed up at Tea Party rally’s as racist, they got thrown out with the rest of the racist.

The TEA Party and Rush Radio is the good force, and anyone who says otherwise is low information (to be polite...).


6 posted on 11/15/2014 9:18:01 AM PST by Son House (Who's going to clean up Bush's mess now? </sarc>)
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To: Jabba the Nutt

Correction: Ron Fournier is the Senior Political Columnist and Editorial Director at the National Journal, formerly with the AP.


7 posted on 11/15/2014 9:30:48 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
A very good piece of writing with a firm grasp of the history of the affair.

I would only add to the history that the bill was written deliberately in such a fashion so as to prevent a contrary analysis from becoming obvious. Hence, if you want to know what is in it you have to pass it. Nancy Pelosi's remarks was not as fatuous as it sounds if considered from this angle. The whole drama was designed to pass stealth legislation.

Gruber provided the cover for Democrats who could plausibly point to his study and talk about sunshine and unicorns. Obama went on the hustings and did the rest. The point all around was to suspend disbelief as you point out. Some of them like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama were no doubt explicitly guilty of lying. Most of the rest of the Democrats complied by suspending disbelief. Gruber was there to provide cover and to give the media a plausible hook.

The fact remains that taxpayer dollars were disreputably paid out to provide propaganda to mislead taxpayers. The Democrat elites were certainly possessed of guilty knowledge, the rest of them should have known, no doubt many of them did, some chose not to know.


9 posted on 11/15/2014 9:38:50 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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Don’t forget the guppies on the Supreme Court.


10 posted on 11/15/2014 9:40:23 AM PST by CMailBag
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"the stupidity of the American Voter"

Is anyone denying this when it comes to voters on the left? Obama was elected twice. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid - re elected, Ted Kennedy - re elected for almost half a century, even after he killed a woman. Hillary Clinton, Fauxcahontas Warren seriously considered as POTUS candidates.

12 posted on 11/15/2014 9:41:47 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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Could somebody please donate some links to the videos? I need to show them around to folks here who believe they aren’t real. I can’t find them searching except for mini excerpts on news shows.


23 posted on 11/15/2014 9:58:53 AM PST by arthurus
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Let us not forget that Sarah Palin, the “stupid” Woman the Left loves to hate, told everyone the Truth about Obamacare years ago.

A voice in the wilderness.


24 posted on 11/15/2014 10:00:36 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (11/04/14, the day people finally realized that their Dictator is just a Dick..)
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27 posted on 11/15/2014 10:02:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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He was lying to Dems. And they fell for it.
32 posted on 11/15/2014 10:04:09 AM PST by Yaelle
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Who are the rubes? Those who were never taken in by the lies or those who believed Obama?

Certainly not the MSM who up til now have still not reported on Gruber and continue to shield Obola from any possible criticism.

41 posted on 11/15/2014 10:15:27 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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The GOP sadly tells us there's nothing to be done about this latest Obamination. So let's read a book: Pulp fiction photo: Pulp Fiction 15551561182856539_zCHZ7dLv_f.jpg
43 posted on 11/15/2014 10:25:57 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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The hallmark of a good con is that the marks don’t believe they were swindled even when presented with the evidence. The Democrat voters and politicians were the targets of the scam.


52 posted on 11/15/2014 10:49:35 AM PST by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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Jonathan Gruber was Mitt Romney’s key guy in constructing the state run health care tyranny in Massachussetts. Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee for President and is still acclaimed as a legitimate leader by the current crop of Republican Leaders. And Mitt Romney hired Jonathan Gruber, who thinks Americans are stupid, and government should lie to the stupid citizens to get what the smarter government people want, like Romneycare.

Jonathan Gruber is a 100% indictment of the Republican RINO leadership, who did nothing to expose the fraud of Obamacare, or repeal it, over the past four years. And now that it is a known fraud, they are promising, via Mitch McConnell to fund it, and do nothing to repeal it.


54 posted on 11/15/2014 11:56:58 AM PST by The Swing
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