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LGBT to Donna Campbell: Your Proposal Would Discriminate Against Us
NewsMax ^ | Thursday, 13 Nov 2014 09:42 AM | Clyde Hughes

Posted on 11/13/2014 8:57:29 AM PST by DaveyB

The LGBT community has a major issue with Texas Sen. Donna Campbell's proposed bill to add a religious liberties amendment to the state constitution, which critics say would essentially give business owners a license to discriminate against lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender people.

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"The 2013 measure was supported by the anti-LGBT group Texas Values and opposed by Equality Texas," Lone Star Q stated. "Texas already has a statute, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, that provides strong protections for religious freedom. However, critics say Campbell's proposal would go much further than the Texas RFRA."

"For example, while the RFRA says government 'may not substantially burden' an individual's religious freedom, SJR10 states only that government 'may not burden' an individual's religious freedom. Removing the word 'substantially' would significantly alter the scope of the law . . . Also, unlike the RFRA, Campbell's proposal doesn't include exceptions for enforcement of civil rights laws."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: lgbt; religion
The freedom to perversion or the freedom to practice religious tenants in a free market. It is almost like liberalism is its own religion,
1 posted on 11/13/2014 8:57:29 AM PST by DaveyB
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To: DaveyB
LGBT to Donna Campbell: Your Proposal Would Discriminate Against Us

Yes, it would. So what? I have no problem with homo business owners refusing service to straight customers and only serving gays. Course, since it's the left that's always pushing non-discrimination in public accommodations, they should have to live by it, I guess.

2 posted on 11/13/2014 9:02:20 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: DaveyB

If i smoke, i am kept out of businesses... Isn’t that discrimination on a behavioral basis?


3 posted on 11/13/2014 9:02:50 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: DaveyB
Your Proposal Would Discriminate Against Us

Sucks, doesn't it?

4 posted on 11/13/2014 9:04:55 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: DaveyB

How about this for a bill?

All PRIVATE businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

Let the public determine if they stay in business or not by choosing to spend or not spend their money in that business.


5 posted on 11/13/2014 9:07:08 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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To: DaveyB

Where the the sign where they have right not to serve you do they have in Texas


6 posted on 11/13/2014 9:07:52 AM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: teeman8r

This discriminates against nudists......

7 posted on 11/13/2014 9:14:30 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: DaveyB

I agree that the LGBT “community” has major issues but I am way beyond giving a rat’s a$$ about them. I am tired of hearing what less than 2% of the population thinks about anything.


8 posted on 11/13/2014 9:17:26 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: DaveyB

It is almost like liberalism is its own religion.
So true ever notice at the nut huts they all feel they are sane.


9 posted on 11/13/2014 9:19:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: DaveyB

How about freedom to decide who you will associate with, trade with, work with. How about freedom to control your property, your business. How about freedom. Has absolutely nothing to do with religion. If you get on your knees and beg just to have your little bit of “religious” freedom, even that will not last.
I am a Christian.


10 posted on 11/13/2014 9:27:45 AM PST by all the best
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Donate And Keep The Lights On


11 posted on 11/13/2014 9:27:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DaveyB
I had a long,looonnngg conversation with some facebook friends about this very issue. I tried to explain that a person's personal religious beliefs are held closely to them,and are a part of who they are; many choose not to compromise those beliefs in their business. I cited the incident where a bakery was forced to close and was sued into bankruptcy by a gay couple because the business owners refused to bake a cake for a gay wedding. i was told by one person who joined the fray that the owner "reaped what he had sown"; the person I was speaking to was joined by her husband and her friend,who told me that to refuse was judgmental, biased and bigoted; personal beliefs should not be permitted when it comes to business. I calmly tried to explain to them that it's not discriminatory to refuse a SPECIFIC service to a person, only if that person was turned away and the owner refused to serve them at all. I pointed out that the gay couple in that story could have patronized the store in any other way,had a birthday cake baked for them,been served cookies and coffee,or treated in the same fashion as any other patron. That's not being discriminatory. I was informed that,yes,indeed,that's judgmental and discriminatory. I provided examples,tried to be as clear and concise as possible, but ended up having to agree to disagree. I absolutely could not make them understand that not compromising your personal beliefs is not discrimination, and that businesses should be allowed to exercise those beliefs when they feel their faith is being infringed upon. Crazy...just crazy.
These are good,family-oriented people with a family-based business and children. They have gay friends and maybe that's what colored their decision; I don't know.
In any event, I was glad that I at least tried to make a point.
12 posted on 11/13/2014 9:30:10 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (I'm on CRUZ Control right into 2016!)
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To: rfreedom4u
All PRIVATE businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

If the USSC understood property ownership rights, that would already be the law. I would add your outstanding bill the following amendment: PRIVATE business may hire and un-hire anyone for any reason as well. The business owner owns the whole business,including the jobs. (However, that would not invalidate any contract, and the owner is free to engage in collective contracts as he sees fit.)

Imagine how the country would look different if having a tattoo on your face and a bone in your nose had real economical consequences. Or if you informing people about one's sexually deviance was not a "right", and consequently firing a worker for defaming the company by association with their perverted exploits was a legal and enforceable right.

13 posted on 11/13/2014 9:31:52 AM PST by DaveyB
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To: Red Badger

What if you walked in wearing ONLY a shirt and shoes?


14 posted on 11/13/2014 9:35:35 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: DaveyB

Morality ain’t determined by majority vote. God determined morality and set it forth in His Word. He abhors homosexuality and commanded that the Israelites destroy them in the OT. In the NT, He makes plain that unrepentant homosexuals are ALL going to hell.

The problem really ain’t the homosexuals but what’s apparently a majority of Americans who have sunk into depravity and agree with them. Of course, they’re just as much hell-bound as the homosexuals they support. Calling God a liar has consequences.


15 posted on 11/13/2014 9:44:35 AM PST by afsnco
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To: afsnco
Morality ain’t determined by majority vote.

Amen!

16 posted on 11/13/2014 9:48:32 AM PST by DaveyB
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To: 3boysdad

If you were in a gay bar, no problemo!......


17 posted on 11/13/2014 9:48:35 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: DaveyB
It's not like this is a new concept.

GO. SOMEWHERE. ELSE.

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18 posted on 11/13/2014 10:01:13 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: DaveyB

There should be no exceptions to genuine religious freedom. “The Church of the Choom Gang” has no rights, but genuine faith (whether Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, or any other real faith) is an absolute. If these perverts are being discriminated against, they should be grateful for the opportunity to make sure that their money goes to those who don’t find them disgusting and revolting.


19 posted on 11/13/2014 10:23:00 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: DaveyB

tattoo on your face and a bone in your nose

If I go into a business and see any of that, I complain to the management that it looks unprofessional. They usually just nod and apologize but nothing gets done.


20 posted on 11/13/2014 11:13:26 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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