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After the GOP wave, Ted Cruz’s Obamacare plan
NetRightDaily.com ^ | Tom Toth

Posted on 11/08/2014 2:39:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie

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To: Slyfox

Thank you so much.
Good for one use!


21 posted on 11/08/2014 3:47:24 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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22 posted on 11/08/2014 4:03:39 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: Slyfox

Mystery Election Theater 2014.


23 posted on 11/08/2014 4:07:23 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Slyfox

TYVM!
xoxoxoxo


24 posted on 11/08/2014 4:12:35 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: SoConPubbie

The President is the only one standing in the way of repeal, so not much can be done.

They can still dump a snow flurry of bills on him on Monday of every week.


25 posted on 11/08/2014 4:13:03 PM PST by lurk
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To: SoConPubbie
Cruz finished off, saying, “force the President to face those single, rifle-shot repeals and decide whether he’s going to listen to the American people or just remain an absolute partisan. And, you know, if he vetoes those bills, I think there’s a real chance we might be able to get the votes to override those vetoes.”

Unfortunately the GOP won't have the votes to override the filibuster much less override a veto.

26 posted on 11/08/2014 4:29:06 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SoConPubbie
The Individual Mandate is the heart and linchpin of the law. Repeal it and the whole thing dies.

Any legislation that fails to overturn the mandate can be seen as a vote FOR obamneycare.

27 posted on 11/08/2014 4:51:16 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: SoConPubbie

If they are going to fund Obamacare subsidies, they should be ONLY for plans purchased through state exchanges, in accordance with the law.


28 posted on 11/08/2014 5:15:10 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: SoConPubbie

ted cruz should run for senate and/or house majority leader


29 posted on 11/08/2014 6:49:45 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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Unfortunately the GOP won't have the votes to override the filibuster much less override a veto.
The Democrats set the precedent that ObamaCare wasn’t subject to any filibuster when they rammed it through after Scott Brown won the seat that took away their 60th vote.

If it din’t take 60 to pass, Republicans don’t set a new precedent if they decide that it doesn’t take 60 to repeal.


30 posted on 11/08/2014 6:58:33 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I can see that! I’m still hoping Sarah decides to have a go at it but if she decides against it, I’m all in for Ted Cruz!


31 posted on 11/08/2014 7:32:07 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a great life!)
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To: expat2

Not just the individual mandate. The employer mandate. That’s what’s going to throw millions out of their health care plan.


32 posted on 11/08/2014 8:03:16 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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The Democrats set the precedent that ObamaCare wasn’t subject to any filibuster when they rammed it through after Scott Brown won the seat that took away their 60th vote.

Did they or did they not get 60 votes?

33 posted on 11/09/2014 4:11:23 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SoConPubbie
There's only one way to deal with Obamacare.

KILL IT!

KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!

34 posted on 11/09/2014 4:25:30 AM PST by uglybiker (nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
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The Democrats set the precedent that ObamaCare wasn’t subject to any filibuster when they rammed it through after Scott Brown won the seat that took away their 60th vote.
Did they or did they not get 60 votes?
They did not. They “coulda woulda shoulda" done it before Ted Kennedy died, because that’s how many senators the Republicans didn’t have (some of them were “intependents” including, or only, Bernie Sanders (I,VT). But by the time they got done with the “Louisiana Purchase” bribing of Landrieu and the “Cornhusker Kickback” bribing of Ben Nelson, and were ready to vote for cloture (the vote that takes 60), Scott Brown had won the special election to replace Kennedy - and then they couldn’t get 60.

So - no problem, right? Just “deem” the ACA to be a budget bill that can’t be filibustered, and call the vote, winning by 59-41 (or whatever it was in the end, doesn’t matter morally, other than that NO Republican voted for the bill). But, as I said, the Democrats established the precedent that the ACA is not subject to cloture. They made their bed, and the 2015 Republican majority will deem that they have to lie in it.

Of course Obama will veto repeal, and the Democrats presumably will defeat an override attempt. Then the Republicans will pass “repeal and replace” by inches, and do their best to put Obama - and every Democrat who votes against override - in the wrong. Meanwhile, the clock will keep ticking toward a SCOTUS ruling that “when we ruled that the ACA was law, we meant that it means what it says, no matter who now wishes it said something else.” And towards ever-worse effects on the economy due to ACA.


35 posted on 11/09/2014 2:17:06 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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