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To: Morpheus2009
The results of forming an extremely complex molecule are far fetched. Organic chemical reactions, whether electricity, combustion, or mixing with other chemicals, we do it with STRICT control and observation over the procedure. The other reality is that chemicals can also revert back. Not impossible, but extremely improbable.

Now, please be gentle. I am not well versed on the TOE/Creation debate, but hasn't the theory of Organic theory of life spontaneously generating life almost universally refuted by Origen of Life scientists? It was as if life miraculously appeared with organization, ability to reproduce, and genetic information in the form of nucleotide/nucleoside bases. You say of chemicals (not life) is far fetched. So you have confused me.

But that is not what I wish to ask you.

So, if I may ask. The theory of evolution is a theory originated as thought in the mind of Darwin. Most Darwinists are Naturalists (Phhysicalists). That is to say that their belief is that ALL THERE IS, is physical matter and energy (interchangeable at times). So, most philosophers agree that knowledge is WARRANTED, TRUE, BELIEF. One may believe the moon is cheese but that is not warranted and not true,....so that belief is not knowledge. That warranted belief can only be guaranteed IF AND ONLY IF that belief was formed by cognitive faculties functioning NORMATIVELY (i.e. how they are supposed to function).

Now if knowledge exists (i.e.TOE) and IF properly functioning cognitive faculties are required to acquire that knowledge , then the notion of properly functioning faculties require a Designer.

If so this shows evolutionary naturalism or if you wish metaphysical naturalism is false, OR IF TRUE, it is irrational to believe in evolutionary naturalism because according to the theory evolution, natural selection adapts only for survival value - NOT TRUTH. It selects for BEHAVIOR - not truth. It selects for behavior, not knowledge.

Now if darwinists/physicalists affirm and are consistent they must affirm No GOD and therefore owe us an explanation as to what it means to have a properly functioning cognitive faculty which will result in WARRANTED TRUE BELIEF (Knowledge) and if they cannot, they should abandon the folly of believing that they have a rationale for any belief they hold. In other words they have no reason to believe anything is true

As Jaegwan Kim said, "Physicalism (Methaphysical Naturalism) exact a high epistemological price.

P.S. I thought it was a nice touch in the article that the 'scientist' said this amphibian must have lived a happy life. But how can he arrive at such an assertion in a mindless, pitiless universe (Richard Dawkins)

150 posted on 11/08/2014 1:09:08 AM PST by Texas Songwriter (w)
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To: Texas Songwriter

>> That is to say that their belief is that ALL THERE IS ...

Their views amount to nothing more than the dismissal of others’.


151 posted on 11/08/2014 1:29:29 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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