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Ebola Quarantines Ignore Experience and Trample Freedom
Townhall.com ^ | November 2, 2014 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 11/02/2014 8:49:43 AM PST by Kaslin

I am a faithful and loving husband to a wonderful woman, and I do not make a practice of hugging women I don't know. But if I had the chance, I wouldn't hesitate to embrace Kaci Hickox.

She apparently would be willing. In denouncing the quarantine imposed on her by the government of Maine -- which she defied the other day by going on a bike ride with her boyfriend -- the 33-year-old nurse said, "You could hug me. You could shake my hand. I would not give you Ebola."

That's accurate, from all available evidence, since she has never had any symptoms of the disease. A hug from her would be more likely to break my ribs than give me a deadly virus.

Returning from a month in Sierra Leone working for Doctors Without Borders, Hickox was stopped at the Newark airport. After a forehead scanner indicated a fever -- which she attributed to being flushed from distress at being detained for hours with no explanation -- an oral thermometer registered 98.6 degrees. She didn't have a fever before or since. Still, she was placed in an isolation tent in a hospital for three days before being flown to her home in Maine.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, only Ebola victims showing symptoms can pass the virus to others. But some officials couldn't care less about such details. Three governors have issued quarantine mandates for any medical worker who has had contact with Ebola patients -- Chris Christie of New Jersey, Andrew Cuomo of New York and Pat Quinn of Illinois. A Maine court ordered Hickox not to leave town and to stay at least three feet away from others -- only to lift the order the following day.

Christie went out of his way to patronize this woman who risked her life to save patients on the other side of the world. "When she has time to reflect, she'll understand," he predicted.

Given time and reflection, maybe the rest of us will understand just how ridiculous he and others are for inflicting needless burdens on people who pose no discernible danger. When did it become a badge of toughness to succumb to irrational panic?

The hardliners act as though we have no experience with infectious disease and therefore have to take any steps that could conceivably block it. In fact, the CDC has been dealing competently with illnesses like this for a long time.

Back in 2002 and 2003, a virus called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) infected more than 8,000 people, mostly in Asia, and killed 774. Even though it could be spread through the air, had a high mortality rate and infected 27 people in the United States, the CDC didn't recommend mandatory quarantines. So it makes sense that the agency would not advise that approach for Ebola, which is much harder to contract.

There is an assumption that health care workers returning from Ebola zones are too irresponsible to avoid infecting others. But groups that work in these areas know better than anyone how to avoid getting or giving the disease.

Ebola has been around since 1976, and Doctors Without Borders (which goes by the French acronym MSF) has a lot of experience on the front lines. Until this year's outbreak, the biggest ever, it had never had an international staff member infected. Only three have contracted the virus this time. None has spread it to other people.

Nor is any likely to. Upon coming home, the group says, staffers are required to "check their temperature two times per day; finish their regular course of malaria prophylaxis, since malaria symptoms can mimic Ebola symptoms; be aware of relevant symptoms, such as fever; stay within four hours of a hospital with isolation facilities; and immediately contact the MSF-USA office if any relevant symptoms develop."

Why should we trust these doctors and nurses to follow this strict regime? First, because they wouldn't survive treating Ebola if they were sloppy. Second, because professionals who have made great sacrifices to fight the disease are not likely to knowingly put others in danger. Third, because they are acutely aware of the symptoms of Ebola and have every reason to get immediate care if they appear.

Hickox, however, is at the mercy of public officials who are eager to trample on her freedom in deference to unwarranted hysteria. In going to Africa to treat Ebola patients, she showed admirable courage. Too bad it's not contagious.


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1 posted on 11/02/2014 8:49:43 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Is Steve a Rontard?


2 posted on 11/02/2014 8:51:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Kaslin

The more you have to tell people what a “good person” you are, the less believable it becomes ...


3 posted on 11/02/2014 8:54:27 AM PST by mikrofon (Sabbath BUMP)
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To: Kaslin; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.


Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your......

(Since all records of obama's past were lost in a tragic boating accident and fire, no one can be certain that the guy in the red circle isn't him...)

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

4 posted on 11/02/2014 8:56:06 AM PST by null and void (If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.)
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To: Kaslin

“Why should we trust these doctors and nurses to follow this strict regime?”

Because they like to bowl and ride the subway?


5 posted on 11/02/2014 8:56:16 AM PST by headstamp 2
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To: Kaslin
"I am a faithful and loving husband to a wonderful woman, and I do not make a practice of hugging women I don't know. But if I had the chance, I wouldn't hesitate to embrace Kaci Hickox."

Liar.

Let's take up a collection for transportation costs to arrange the meeting!

6 posted on 11/02/2014 8:57:23 AM PST by null and void (If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ad hom is the best you can do? Obviously that nurse is not a threat to anyone. Most medical professionals are not a threat due to their small numbers. What is a threat is 150 morons like Duncan coming in potentially incubating. They will not check their own temperature until it is too late. There’s a pretty good chance they won’t even know if they were exposed. Most would not hesitate to lie on the form if they knew they were exposed.


7 posted on 11/02/2014 8:59:00 AM PST by palmer (Thank you for your patience.)
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To: null and void

Symptom free, she presents zero threat. How many people did Duncan infect other than the two nurses?


8 posted on 11/02/2014 9:00:17 AM PST by palmer (Thank you for your patience.)
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To: Kaslin

As a rule, I make it a habit not to ride with Dem operatives or CDC intelligence agents.


9 posted on 11/02/2014 9:01:51 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. President zero gave us patient zero.)
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To: palmer

You misspelled patients in your tagline.


10 posted on 11/02/2014 9:05:08 AM PST by null and void (If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.)
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To: Kaslin
"The hardliners act as though we have no experience with infectious disease and therefore have to take any steps that could conceivably block it."

Actually, the "hardliners" have a great deal of experience and know exactly what will work.





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11 posted on 11/02/2014 9:05:54 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Kaslin
a virus called Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) infected more than 8,000 people...and killed 774. Even though it could be spread through the air, had a high mortality rate...

Let's look at the fatality rates more closely: SARS fatality 9.7%. Ebola fatality rate 70%, including 236 health care workers. Doctors Without Borders has lost 9 out of 16 staffers who have contracted Ebola.

Now,what was the author's original point?

12 posted on 11/02/2014 9:07:25 AM PST by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: Kaslin

http://thestyletribune.com/upto-12-ebola-cases-asymptomatic-past-21-days-new-study-reveals/ Upto 12% of Ebola Cases Are Asymptomatic Past 21 Days; New Study Reveals

Posted by: Alexandra Blake in Health 17 days ago 0 207 Views

As they cope with the first cases of Ebola hemorrhagic fever diagnosed in the United States, in Texas, health officials step up precautions to ensure minimal contact with the virus.

According to a new analysis conducted by the expert transmission Charles Haas of Drexel University, as many as 12 percent of patients Ebola may not show symptoms for more than 21 days after infection, thereby making the current quarantine practices unacceptably short.

Also:

http://www.virology.ws/2009/02/13/acute-viral-infections/ viral infections can be spread by patients without symptoms. I’m looking for the link, but, if my memory is correct, it has been estimated that 16% of Ebola patients are contagious before showing symptoms (including fever).


13 posted on 11/02/2014 9:08:35 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: null and void

True. Maybe I’ll start using headlines instead.


14 posted on 11/02/2014 9:08:55 AM PST by palmer (Ind. Health Dept. monitoring 6 for Ebola like symptoms)
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To: Pollster1
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-1012-ebola-fever-20141012-story.html#page=1
15 posted on 11/02/2014 9:12:02 AM PST by palmer (Ind. Health Dept. monitoring 6 for Ebola like symptoms)
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To: palmer

So you don’t think that the states of Maine or New Jersey have the duty to quarantine someone who has obviously been exposed to Ebola, a very deadly disease? Her roommate has Ebola, or did you not know that?


16 posted on 11/02/2014 9:15:02 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Kaslin
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17 posted on 11/02/2014 9:16:11 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Pollster1

And in addition to what Pollster1 posted, the ebola virus test has a high rate of false negatives. So the real way to stop the disease in its tracks is to very simply institute strict quarantine - for 40 days. Like Firestone did in Africa with great results. In the middle of a hot zone.

It’s not the end of the world. It’s not cruel. Come on, you can clean the house from top to bottom, work on hobbies, or play stupid video games. This entire narrative is pathetic.


18 posted on 11/02/2014 9:17:30 AM PST by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Kaslin

“After a forehead scanner indicated a fever — which she attributed to being flushed from distress at being detained for hours with no explanation — an oral thermometer registered 98.6 degrees.”

First, stress or distress will not cause a fever. Secondly, - she just happens to register the AVERAGE HUMAN BODY TEMP right on the dot?


19 posted on 11/02/2014 9:21:51 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA IS ISLAM.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not that I don’t believe you, but could you please post the source about her room-mate having Ebola?


20 posted on 11/02/2014 9:25:48 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (OBAMA IS ISLAM.)
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