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Christie's controversial Ebola quarantine now embraced by Nobel Prize-winning doctor
nj ^ | 10/28/14

Posted on 10/28/2014 8:07:43 PM PDT by knak

TRENTON — After days of blistering criticism from the ACLU, the CDC and even the United Nations secretary general over Gov. Chris Christie’s new, 21-day mandatory quarantine policy for all healthcare workers exposed to Ebola, the New Jersey governor has gotten a much-needed vote of support from a heavyweight name in the medical community: Nobel Prize-winning doctor and medical researcher, Dr. Bruce Beutler.

Dr. Beutler, an American medical doctor and researcher, won the Nobel Prize for Medicine and Physiology in 2011 for his work researching the cellular subsystem of the body’s overall immune system — the part of it that defends the body from infection by other organisms, like Ebola.

snip: It may not be absolutely true that those without symptoms can’t transmit the disease, because we don’t have the numbers to back that up,” said Beutler, “It could be people develop significant viremia [where viruses enter the bloodstream and gain access to the rest of the body], and become able to transmit the disease before they have a fever, even. People may have said that without symptoms you can’t transmit Ebola. I’m not sure about that being 100 percent true. There’s a lot of variation with viruses.”

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1 posted on 10/28/2014 8:07:43 PM PDT by knak
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To: knak

A combined influenza and Ebola infection in one
individual will give the lethal spray
that the undocumented Tyrant Obola
and the EXEMPT treasonous Congress desperately want.


2 posted on 10/28/2014 8:12:04 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: knak
"It may not be absolutely true that those without symptoms can’t transmit the disease, because we don’t have the numbers to back that up,” said Beutler, “It could be people develop significant viremia [where viruses enter the bloodstream and gain access to the rest of the body], and become able to transmit the disease before they have a fever, even. People may have said that without symptoms you can’t transmit Ebola. I’m not sure about that being 100 percent true. There’s a lot of variation with viruses.”"

Well, Duh!

If it only takes 1 to 10 virii to infect one, somehow obtaining 10 from a person infected but not yet showing symptoms but "leaking" virii is a definite possibility.

Dr. 0bola's (Political) "Science" not withstanding....

3 posted on 10/28/2014 8:13:04 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: knak

Don’t worry, everything is under control. It’s a good thing our President is from Africa because that means he has experience in this area which I’m sure that is why he demanded Christie release the girl from quarantine and why he’s about to import foreigners with Ebola because he is an expert in the matter. We are so lucky.


4 posted on 10/28/2014 8:16:37 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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To: knak
Dr. Beutler sounds like an hysteric.
5 posted on 10/28/2014 8:18:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: knak

Ebola is a lot larger than viruses that can go airborne. And it does not infect respiratory cells that secrete mucous.

Also, the virus may not be in the blood even when symptoms start. The first blood test on symptomatic patients is often negative, but will be positive a couple of days later. Ebola grows very well in the liver—an organ that no one is ever going to see or accidentally touch, under normal circumstances.


6 posted on 10/28/2014 8:19:19 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: knak
Do you REALLY need a Doctor's degree or Nobel Prize to understand that people who may have a deadly disease, which can't be ruled out until 21 days have passed, should be quarantined for 21 days?

Once again, it is the liberal nutjobs trying to convince us that nature isn't natural!! I mean diseases which need humans to survive, will find away to be transmitted! Unless WE HUMANS do something (like quarantining) to STOP that transmission!!
7 posted on 10/28/2014 8:23:34 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: exDemMom

You are fabricating your statements.

You have absolutely no idea of its localization in
an opportunistic infection, nor do you have any idea
of the full number of compartments available to it
in humans or in species in which it will live
(eg. bats and other mammals).
It survives for MONTHS after “cure”.

And the danger period is more than 21 days.


8 posted on 10/28/2014 8:24:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: knak

See the thing about this virus is nobody is crazy enough to test how it gets transmitted. Hello, who first would like to volunteer and see if they contract this incurable disease that dissolves your insides in 3 weeks? So all this stuff the treasonists are spewing like “You can only catch it from bodily fluids” is utter BS. Nobody really knows. We got two nurses in Dallas who contracted it covered in protective gear and the excuse we were given was “Their necks were exposed”. So what did they do, pick up Thomas Duncans vomit and rub on an open wound on their necks? Bullcrap. They got it some other way besides a transfer of bodily fluids. This isn’t AIDS where you get it from anal sex or sharing needles, this stuff lives outside the body long enough where these nurses got it which makes it insanely dangerous and this absolutely psychopath from hell in the Whitehouse is hellbent on importing it. Anyone read this yet?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/10/27/Exclusive-Obama-Plans-to-Import-Ebola-infected-Foreigners-from-Other-Countries


9 posted on 10/28/2014 8:26:24 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Not all Muslims are terrorists but all Muslims are potential terrorists.)
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To: exDemMom

Actually, the CDC has now changed their position and now state that Ebola CAN be transmitted via airborne transmission up to 3 feet away through spittle, sneezing, coughing, and puking.

This is something which the WHO has been stating since 2011!


10 posted on 10/28/2014 8:26:36 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: CaptainK

Only to morons.


11 posted on 10/28/2014 8:26:42 PM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Absolutely correct.


12 posted on 10/28/2014 8:27:58 PM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: ExTxMarine

When you are uncertain and dealing with a pathogen of such high transmissability and lethality you take the most rigorous precautions unless, of course, you are a black racist Muslim leader with a hidden agenda.


13 posted on 10/28/2014 8:31:56 PM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: Paladin2

and by sheer miracle the guv’t will “step up” vaccine production and “pressure” the drug companies to release a number of diff vaccines when the ebola population in the US has been infected enough to consider it “ripe & ready” to dispense at the behest of the feds.

money, honey, it’s all about money and there is now way I’ll believe in my lifetime there is NO vaccine .

it’s Big Pharma’s Payback from the feds.


14 posted on 10/28/2014 8:35:48 PM PDT by thesligoduffyflynns (Sligo Surf Club)
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To: ExTxMarine
Actually, the CDC has now changed their position and now state that Ebola CAN be transmitted via airborne transmission up to 3 feet away through spittle, sneezing, coughing, and puking. This is something which the WHO has been stating since 2011

Sneeze droplets can go much farther than 3 feet

15 posted on 10/28/2014 8:59:00 PM PDT by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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You know that, I know that, but apparently the CDC doesn’t!


16 posted on 10/28/2014 9:00:26 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: exDemMom

A blood test for virus does not look for actual virus particles, but actually the antibodies produced in response to infection. So it’s possible to have the virus and not yet have a detectable immune response.


17 posted on 10/28/2014 9:04:14 PM PDT by steerpike100
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To: knak

Not much of a Christie fan anymore, but his call is a good one. Whatever the far left disagrees with is ‘controversial’ in this society since around 2000. Radical changes in the definition of marriage - ‘not controversial’.

Common sense precautions - ‘controversial’


18 posted on 10/28/2014 9:04:27 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: steerpike100

I have wondered if the most recent strain of Ebola had been studied in a sufficiently controlled environment to support the absolutes being offered by Prince Obie’s administration...


19 posted on 10/28/2014 9:10:28 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: knak

Tell that to the whiner from Maine.


20 posted on 10/28/2014 9:29:57 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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