David Cameron prepares to fight Brussels’ £1.7bn demand

the guardian ^ | 27 October 2014 | Watt, Syal, White

[Berlin_Freeper]

David Cameron is bracing himself for a bruising showdown with Brussels after he hardened his stance in a £1.7bn budget row with the EU as the European commission threatened to retaliate by placing Britain’s multibillion pound EU budget rebate on the table.

[Berlin_Freeper]

£1.7bn which is due by 1 December. A penalty would start at 2% of the outstanding amount before rising by 0.25% every month.

[Berlin_Freeper]

He said: “You don’t need a Cluedo set to know that someone has been clubbed with the lead piping in the library.”

Jogger, on the street, with a body slam.

[Nextrush]

“Fight” my you know what.....Cameron is a lapdog of the EU who has to pretend otherwise ahead of the by-election November 20th and the general election next May 7th.

UKIP has called his bluff and we all know Cameron is a prime minister without any clothes.....

[Theoria]

More fodder for Farage.

Already saying, he[Cameron] will pay up.

[Cowboy Bob]

Why should there be a fight? The UK should just say “no” and leave it at that.

What power does the EU have other than that which a country allows them? A country would have to voluntarily submit to the EU.

[pepsionice]

Basically, all of the EU countries have been playing by these stupid EU rules. The shock here....really involves a strange formula that the EU developed for these EU-related taxes (the EU has to gift money to someone down the line, to show they are legit as a source of power).

The formula, involves not only counting the income and economy of a nation....but also the “black” income and market as well. So they guesstimate this percentage....as foolish as it sounds. If a nation enacts reforms (laws) to take down blackmarkets and black money....they get bonus points. If a nation just stands by and lets black markets exist....they get negative points. Well....you can guess the game....France and Germany gamed up the system....passing various laws which hurt the black market that people perceive in existing. Whether true or not....it doesn’t matter.

The UK guys screwed up and didn’t figure out the game until the end of the tax year, and they are screwed.

To have this secret tally come out the week of EU meetings with Cameron in attendance (it was supposed to be early November for the release of the data)....it was geared to shame Cameron in some fashion.

For Cameron, there’s no way out....and the British will likely leave the EU in 2015. Paying the 2 billion Euro? It won’t happen. I should add...several other countries are on the dock to pay more but it ranges from 100 million to 500 million. Greece, I believe, even got on the list. The odds of Greece paying anything? Pretty much zero.

All of this leads around to the silly idea that the EU needs to exist as a tax revenue system, and gift the money back to individual countries. I looked over the bulk of EU spending....the vast sum (maybe seventy-percent) go toward agricultural subsidy deals and infrastructure (bridges, roads, national parks). They try to keep all farmers in the EU on a level playing field, which typically doesn’t work that well. The bridge and road thing? Unnecessary, and should be the problem of local communities or countries...NOT the EU.

All of this leads to 2015 being a miserable year for the EU.

[ExCTCitizen]

Sir David, why not withdraw from the EU and create a trading block with the US, Canada, Ireland, Iceland and Greenland? It would give Brussels fits.... :-)