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[RummyChick]

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=4644486179fe1388a4c395d0d0527b5e&tab=core&_cview=0

[RummyChick]

In the pdf file by the government:

". Preliminary studies indicate that Ebola is aerostable in an enclosed controlled system in the dark and can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks (Piercy, et al., 2010)."

[Art in Idaho]

The bottom line is no one truly understands the full scope of the spread of Ebola and really can’t anyway because of the threat of exponential mutation if the virus goes pandemic. It was and still is a tragedy that potential ebola cases are being allowed to fly into the United States. And don’t give me the excuse that HCW and supplies need to have access to hot zone countries. We, the Brits, French and others have our MACs (Military Airlift Commands) and could do the job. We did D-Day and the Berlin Airlift, we could do this. It takes leaders though. .

[epluribus_2]

... in an enclosed controlled system in the dark and can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks This description sounds a lot like a subway car in NY or a cab at night.

[ScaniaBoy]

See also this:

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2672.2010.04778.x/full

From the abstract:

“Our study has shown that Lake Victoria marburgvirus (MARV) and Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV) can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks. The decay rates of ZEBOV and Reston ebolavirus (REBOV) plus MARV within a dynamic aerosol were calculated. ZEBOV and MARV had similar decay rates, whilst REBOV showed significantly better survival within an aerosol.”

Decay rates indicate half-life for the three viruses in aerosols to between 15 - 25 min, thus it would take some 90 min to almost 3 hours for 99% of the viruses to disappear.

That study only measured the presence of virus, not whether the infectiousness was retained over such long periods. Nevertheless it indicates the problems dealing with a very sick patient hemorrhaging from all body orifices.

[ScaniaBoy]

From the same reference as above:

“The infectious dose of filoviruses, via the aerosol route, in nonhuman primates (reviewed in Leffel and Reed 2004) and in susceptible mice (M.S. Lever, personal communication), is very low. Such data, obtained from experimental animal models, combined with the aerosol decay rates determined in this study, would suggest that filovirus, at infectious levels, may remain a potential aerosol threat for at least one and a half hours.”

[null and void]

Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your dead! The Dark Man cometh! Bring out your......

(hat tip to: fivecatsandadog!)

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

[null and void]

The bottom line is no one truly understands the full scope of the spread of Ebola

Nonsense! FR's own ex-spurts do!

One of them even bragged about scoring 100% of an on line ebola quiz (on a site that had just gotten $13,900,000.00 from the obama administration, no less!)

[RummyChick]

Wonder how much Ebola was spread in the mystery healing river that appeared in Nigeria last year???

http://www.nigeriafilms.com/news/24936/21/video-mystery-healing-river-in-enugu.html

[Art in Idaho]

The bottom line is no one truly understands the full scope of the spread of Ebola

Nonsense! FR's own ex-spurts do! One of them even bragged about scoring 100% of an on line ebola quiz (on a site that had just gotten $13,900,000.00 from the obama administration, no less!)

Good one. Just had this fantasy of a FReeper Congress, President and Cabinet. Talk about cleaning house. .

[goodnesswins]

Maybe instead of “fantasy football games” we should create “Fantasy Freedom games”?

[Art in Idaho]

Maybe instead of “fantasy football games” we should create “Fantasy Freedom games”?

Now that's a concept. I see a movie, "Freedom Games". . .

[indthkr]

"Preliminary studies indicate..."

Don't let actual measurement results get in the way of the CDC-White House-Media narrative!

[DocRock]

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[Smokin' Joe]

Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!