in which false information is presented with the intent
of making victims doubt their own memory, perception, and sanity.
So they’re trying to get us all killed? Do they think that they’re immune to Ebola?
Sounds like the author needs to do some on the ground germalism in Liberia, because he really doesn’t appreciate what NOT living in a pandemic is like.
Sepkowitz is married to a broad that writes for the ny times...that kind of explains it to me. Thy’re both superlibs.
What a dumb$hit you are, Kent.
Ebola isn’t the flu, where mortality is far less than 1% and we have mass innoculations against it - no, moron, it is highly lethal (about 50% in the BEST of circumstances, and 70% - 90% in the worst), we have no vaccine against it (reports to the contrary are irrelevant - there aren’t billions of doses ready to go, and there NEVER will be), and there is effectively no treatment. PLUS, we don’t have a complete handle on the method(s) of transmission, PLUS the damned thing keeps mutating on us.
So, moron, NY and NJ didn’t over-react. In fact, they UNDER-reacted. Why? Because they were (until “persuaded” otherwise by Resident Obola or Czar Ron I) only quarantining those coming from Ebola-infested countries who ADMITTED TO HAVING HAD CONTACT WITH EBOLA PATIENTS. Key word there being “admitted.” Cuz nobody ever lies, nobody ever wants to escape being confined for 3 weeks, and nobody ever has the attitude that they are more important than everyone else. So you see, Kent, NY and NJ only did the very minimum for a very short period of time. Pretty soon, we will all see more Ebola cases in this country, and many of them will come through JFK or Newark...thanks, in no small part, to assclowns like you.
Personally, I believe that anyone who believes the government’s rhetoric that Americans can’t catch Ebola are the ones who are insane.
(hat tip to: fivecatsandadog!)
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
That’s funny they let the nurse go home but it was announced today our soldiers have to go into quaranteen in Italy for 21 days and are not allowed to see their families
This does present a tough civil liberties question. So perhaps we should offer this: enter yourself into a monitored quarantine facility for three weeks (and make it nice and cushy) OR if you refuse, then you will not be covered for any Ebola related illnesses, should they occur. You’re on your own for the $500K treatment fee. And you will only be treated after receipt of advanced payment. Probably no more cases of “Trust me, I’ll just monitor myself”. Problem solved.
I’m absolutely just fine with the quarantine location being moved to this reporter’s house, with a big sign above the door stating that persons in this household are being quarantined for exposure to the Ebola virus, and any others entering the quarantine zone are also exposed and therefore under the same quarantine.
Seriously, this affects a very tiny percentage of people, most of whom are well aware of the dangers of this virus, and we’ve yet to hear exactly how the two Dallas nurses contracted the disease. Want to end this type of thing? Figure out how they got infected.
I personally think these liberal spasms are great.
The more that libs keep spouting that a quarantine is a bad idea, the more people will think they are idiots.
The article describes a typical American reaction when faced with either no information or contradictory information about a crises.
Let me be plain — Ebola is a true pandemic not at all like the artificial pandemics we have seen over the last 30 odd years.
Looking at historical records from the last real pandemic in the 20th Century, the Spanish Flu Pandemic 1918-1920 there are some things that need to be repeated. The Spanish flu infected an estimated 500 million people - world wide. The world’s population in 1920 was estimated at 2 billion; 500 million represented 25% of the world’s total population. Of the estimated 500 million of those infected between 50 and 100 million died. That’s a mortality rate of 10 to 20 percent.
This strain of Ebola has a reported morality rate of 50 to 70 %. In today’s numbers the number infected could reach as high as 1.7 billion with the final death toll of between 850 million and 1.24 billion. Or it could be as low as between 170 and 340 million. Or it could be as low as a few thousand. Who really knows what track this pandemic will follow?
Given the potential numbers, we need to look back at what was successful during the last pandemic. And that was an effective maritime quarantine. Those nations which were less impacted had an effective maritime quarantine; those with the greatest impact didn’t. Look at the historical records of Western and American Samoa - two islands separated by 40 miles of open ocean. BTW - remember that 100 years ago steamships were the intercontinental jet liners of their day.
I most sincerely hope that my worries are just that. I pray that my numbers are off scale high by several orders of magnitude. If not; my nightmares are truly horrific and I will not repeat them here or anywhere else.
Hey stupid, by your logic the W H O is twice as insane because they are saying the quarantine period should be 42 days not 21 days.
When Ebola or some other future plague really gets going, Americans are going to BEG for martial law, boots on the ground and die-in-place policies. You watch.
IF all things are 100% right on what it takes before Ebola is an actively “communicable” virus, it MIGHT be an over reaction.
But in as much as medicine is supposed to first “do no harm” and in as much as security is a first order priority of government, then prudence might say a little over reaction might be better, especially given an equal possibility that Ebola could still mutate and do so in ways that improve its means of spreading. Why take unnecessary chances?
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread