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Friend says Ottawa gunman knew homegrown jihadist, wanted to travel to Middle East
Fox ^ | 10/23/14

Posted on 10/23/2014 4:46:45 AM PDT by workerbee

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The Globe and Mail newspaper, citing a friend of 32-year-old Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, reported that the gunman knew Hasibullah Yusufzai, a British Columbia resident who was charged by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police in July with traveling to Syria with the intent of joining a deadly jihadist group. Yusufzai remains at large despite an international arrest warrant being issued for his capture.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 201407; 201410; canada; gunman; ottawa; ottawacell; ottawashooting; shooting; syria; yusufzai; zihafbibeau
Nothing to see here, pure coincidence I'm sure! Why, this Yusufzai chap was probably just some guy who lived in the same neighborhood, like Bill Ayres was with ObeyMe!

/sarc

1 posted on 10/23/2014 4:46:45 AM PDT by workerbee
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To: workerbee
Why go to the Middle East when you can just stay at home and kill your neighborly friendly infidels? Profiling, no matter how distasteful or politically incorrect is coming, it's the only way to curb these murderers. In addition, the death penalty must be instituted.
2 posted on 10/23/2014 4:58:12 AM PDT by Netz
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To: workerbee

so much for the lone wolf theme


3 posted on 10/23/2014 4:58:29 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: workerbee

That would be the line if he was in the US. Thankfully, Canada seems to be reporting this honestly without hiding the fact that he was linked to terror organizations.


4 posted on 10/23/2014 4:59:12 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Netz

“Profiling, no matter how distasteful or politically incorrect is coming, it’s the only way to curb these murderers.”

My 97 year old mother refuses to fly as every movement is difficult. She can’t get into her shoes by herself and has difficulty manipulating things with her fingers. The process TSA put her through was ludicrous. I had to hire a car and a driver to bring her to my home as I could not take the time off. It cost the same as an airplane ticket and the uniformed driver treated her like a queen.

It’s time to rethink the TSA idea. Israel has nothing like it and has not had a hijacking. But their system involves skilled work in identifying people who are potential hijackers.


5 posted on 10/23/2014 5:07:21 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: workerbee

He was just misunderstood. We must all try to understand the pain in a jihadists heart before we accuse!/s


6 posted on 10/23/2014 5:13:47 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Gen.Blather

Israel is a homogenous country of intelligent people. The U.S.A. Isn’t anymore.........!


7 posted on 10/23/2014 5:14:03 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: workerbee

The swine should have been declared a terrorist on the spot when he was caught trying to get to Syria.


8 posted on 10/23/2014 5:19:29 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: workerbee

Why not just let him leave? BUY his ticket for him.

Then when he’s there, he will be killed before too long.


9 posted on 10/23/2014 5:27:23 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: lormand

Agreed. I would hate to say taxpayer dollars pay to keep him in jail here. I think we should provide flights to all those who want to go to Syria, send them directly there, and provide the coordinates for the bombs to drop.


10 posted on 10/23/2014 5:29:57 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Netz
Declaring Islam as a death cult would be a great start.

Islam in its own words....

Most evil teaching # 1: Islam's paradise of evil, demented, depraved sexual perversity
Verse 9:111 – Muslim's passport to paradise "Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph."

Most evil teaching # 2: Kill the infidels wherever you find them Quran 9:5 (the infamous verse of the sword inciting mass murder): "Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion Verse 9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

Most evil teaching # 3: Extortion Verse 9:29: "Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

Most evil teaching # 4: Verse 5:32/5:33 – verse of barbaric cruelty In order to portray Islam as a wonderful religion, Muslim taqqiyah tacticians, including President Obama, will always quote the verse 5:32, which says, "We decreed for the Children of Israel that whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind." Translation: We can killeth a human being for manslaughter and corruption in the earth and it will not be the killing of all mankind.

Verse 5:33 says:
"The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom;"

Most evil teaching # 5: Verse 65.4 -- Allah's teaching of pedophilia Quran 65:4 says:

"And those of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the 'Iddah (prescribed divorce period), if you have doubts (about their periods), is three months, and for those who have no courses [(i.e. they are still immature) their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is three months likewise, except in case of death]. And for those who are pregnant (whether they are divorced or their husbands are dead), their 'Iddah (prescribed period) is until they deliver (their burdens) (give birth) and whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make his matter easy for him."

Most evil teaching # 6: Verse 33:50 – sanctioning unrestrained slavery and rape for Muhammad by his Allah Verse 33.50 says: "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those [slaves] whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her – specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful".

Most evil teaching # 7: Quran's Sanction of Wife Beating Quran 4:34: "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."

Most evil teaching # 8: Allah takes a shares of plundered booty Quran 8:41 "And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (in war), a fifth share is assigned to Allah, - and to the Messenger, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer, - if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing, - the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things."

Most evil teaching # 9: Verse 24:2 – Allah is a barbarian Adultery and fornication must be punished by flogging with a hundred stripes
Quran 24:2 says: "The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication, -- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by God, if ye believe in God and the Last Day: and let a party of the Believers witness their punishment."

Most evil teaching # 10: Teachings of torture, enslavement, beheading cruelty, eye-for-eye 
TORTURE
Quran 22:19-22: "fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem" "for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods"
SLAVERY
Quran 2.178: "O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement."

BARBARIC CRUELTY
Quran 5:38: "Cut off the hands of thieves, whether they are male or female, as punishment for what they have done-a deterrent from God: God is almighty and wise." 39 "But if anyone repents after his wrongdoing and makes amends, God will accept his repentance: God is most forgiving and merciful."

EYE FOR EYE
Quran 5:45: "And We prescribed for them therein: The life for the life, and the eye for the eye, and the nose for the nose, and the ear for the ear, and the tooth for the tooth, and for wounds retaliation. But whoso forgoeth it (in the way of charity) it shall be expiation for him. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed such as wrong-doers."

BEHEADING
Quran 8.12: "Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

There are 75 teachings of beheading in Quran.
SLAUGHTERING
Quran-8:67: "It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land. Ye desire the lure of this world and Allah desireth (for you) the Hereafter, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (Allah insisting Prophet to kill all the prisoners, and should not keep any surrendered prisoners alive until He (Prophet) occupied entire Arabia.)

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11 posted on 10/23/2014 5:30:51 AM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Dr. Ursus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

Israel may have a Jewish majority, but as far as ethnicity goes they’re a lot more diverse than we are. I worked for an Israeli company and probably no two were exactly the same ethic makeup. (Although it may also be that recent émigrés were more likely to accept posts in the USA.) The ones I met came from all over Europe, Russia, the middle east and parts of Asia as well as different locales in the USA. I didn’t meet any black Israelis but there are quite a few.

As for their common Jewishness I can tell you that what it means to be a Jew is different among the ones I knew. They were as different as Catholic is from fundamentalist Christian or Mormon. Politically, though, the ones I knew were so far left that that many were outright communists. From that perspective the ones I knew were much more homogenous in their (indoctrinated) thinking. Incidentally, the dual citizens vote in elections here and as near as I could tell never voted Republican. The Dems could run an orangutan and they’d vote for him.


12 posted on 10/23/2014 5:35:16 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
Your mother is 97??!! Great for her. I just went through Newark and L.A. security checks. It is a disaster waiting for a disaster. Horribly inefficient and lacking.
Israel relies on PROFILING/HUMINT/TECHNOLOGY and layered security. America relies on Technology and the hope that a terrorist will be exhausted by the checks by the time they reach the plane. We need to profile and punish any terrorist by throwing them into any US prison with our dangerous inmates...
13 posted on 10/23/2014 5:43:15 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Gen.Blather
Politically, though, the ones I knew were so far left that that many were outright communists.
Incidentally, the dual citizens vote in elections here and as near as I could tell never voted Republican. The Dems could run an orangutan and they’d vote for him.

Most Israelis are right wingers, especially the Russians. MOST Israelis who hold dual citizenship as Americans vote REPUBLICAN, hands down. They dislike Obama as much as any “normal” American. Maybe 40 years or more ago, they voted Socialist but today this is not the case.

14 posted on 10/23/2014 5:47:22 AM PDT by Netz
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To: Netz

But you ignore the big issue no one wants to talk about. This goes way beyond profiling.


15 posted on 10/23/2014 5:52:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Netz

“MOST Israelis who hold dual citizenship as Americans vote REPUBLICAN, hands down.”

If the Israelis I knew found out somebody voted Republican they’d have held an intervention. Of course, I have no idea what filters may have been in place that selected or self-selected the ones I worked with. They all, for example, spoke and wrote English. By the time I got there many were dual citizen Americans, due to passport and job restrictions. I had the impression that most of the actual full-time Israelis were lower class and they could live it up over here with their greater hardship pay. Clearly the president and his top directors acted as if they were princes. They had the parking changed so they had their own lot. Their offices were decorated as opposed to furnished. They ate lunch at a local country club instead of restaurants. I have no idea what their politics were but they bragged of how in Israel the company bought lunch. Another Israeli described lunch. It came in three classes. The unwashed masses had a self-serve cafeteria with meat and potatoes and little variety. The middle managers had a much higher end cafeteria with people to dish out what you wanted. The top guys had tuxedoed waiters and real silverware and got to order from a menu.


16 posted on 10/23/2014 5:57:33 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
Well, as in any society, you have your educated elite and Israel is no exception. Israeli hi-tech people come from all walks of life but there is for sure those that brag, abuse and “live it up”.
Most Engineers or personnel that have a chance to (temporarily) live the American dream can be overwhelmed by the land of plenty as opposed to the Land of Milk and Honey.
I work with Israeli Engineers, most not native English speakers but highly capable and dynamically thinking individuals. It is natural there will be snobs with class division and the kind of stuff you're describing.
As most Israelis serve in the military, many are shaped by that experience. It is my experience that they are center-right politically.
17 posted on 10/23/2014 6:12:31 AM PDT by Netz
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To: workerbee

but the press will never point out the common denominator of all these terrorists. Muslim/Islam are forbidden in print & media.


18 posted on 10/23/2014 6:13:53 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: workerbee
What "RECENT CONVERT" are they talking about? Does the author read his own article? Some excerpts from the article:
"...his father, believed to be Belgasem Zahef, who was quoted by the Washington Times in 2011, speaking from the Libya, where he had travelled to join the rebellion against Col. Moammar Qaddafi."

"...son of a Canadian immigration official, Susan Bibeau {mother). She is the deputy chairperson of a division of Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board, and divorced Bibeau’s father."

"Zehaf-Bibeau {terrorist-gunman} grew up in Ottawa and Montreal, and had spent time in Libya."

Bathurst (author's source) "met the gunman in a Vancouver-area mosque about three years ago."

So the mother - works for Canadian Immigration heading up the give away and surrender to Muslim "refugees." She was married to a Libyan Muslim "refugee" {talk about conflict of interest} and they have and raise a son who spent time in Libya and in Mosques.

Now that he commits Islamic terrorism how can he be called a "recent convert?"

19 posted on 10/23/2014 6:56:07 AM PDT by drpix
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To: workerbee

A shout out to our cousins to the north! That’s what I’m talkin’ about. Show the Islamoterrorists the shortcut straight to their “virgins” without having to go through the Middle East! Way to go guys!


20 posted on 10/23/2014 7:09:56 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Ebola and Enterovirus-D68. Proud members of Viruses Without Borders.)
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