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To: Vendome
Ebola transmits much the same way as AIDS and MRSA.
Not very well.

Do you believe if Duncan had helped carry his dying pregnant neighbor who had AIDS he would have gotten AIDS? There is some similarity in the Ebola and HIV viruses, both enveloped RNA. But AIDS patients don't turn into virus factories where every blood vessel in the body and several major organs like the liver are doing nothing but produce new copies of the virus. Second, like HIV, Ebola attacks immune cells but also uses the immune response to gain entry to the blood stream. A strong immune system doesn't help, and can make the spread of the disease more rapid in the victim with a very small window for the treatments you described.

Because of those factors, Ebola is much more dangerous than HIV.

13 posted on 10/22/2014 2:14:22 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

If you have it or the others, it’s terrible.

My objection to the gorification or glorification of the disease is not how awful it is but, how awfully hard it is to transmit.

It requires specific circumstances and elements to transmit.


15 posted on 10/22/2014 2:37:51 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: palmer

Forgot to add: Duncan “Donut Hole Head” did stay in an apartment with several other people, for at least a few days, while symptomatic.

They have been given the “all clear”.

Do I think he could have contracted AIDS if he carried the neighbor, who presumably had AIDS?

It’s “possible” but, the probabilities are conditional and specific.

So we are clear, I hugged friends with AIDS and took care of a friend who had Vancomycin resistant mrsa.

I took great care in to ensure I didn’t put myself in jeopardy and was consistent, probably a bit overboard, in protocol.

Gloves, careful emptying of porta potties, handling laundry, dishes, glasses, etc.

I should have bought stock in bleach, amonia and alcohol.

I cleaned a lot of things twice and I never washed my hands so much, as well spreading alcohol each time I involved myself in any activity where there was a possibility to come in contact with fluids.

Sucked for my friend, who had mrsa.

She was 95. We went through 2 rounds of picc lines and a round of oral antibiotics.

We had nurses on staff but, many times it wasn’t practical to wait until they could come to the house. So, we changed the picc’s and bags ourselves and dropped everything in a sharps.

I’m basing my argument on a similar experience, of a disease that kills and maims, like Ebola.

They are all horrible but, they all transmit under the same specific conditions, which are easy enough to avoid, as well, for the infected, to avoid situations where they might transmit.


17 posted on 10/22/2014 3:35:50 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: palmer

I don’t believe the self serving and preserving Duncan ever helped any Ebola victims..

his own “family” said he was ultra careful and avoided all contacts and chances of catching the disease..

he avoided any areas or people that had Ebola..


42 posted on 10/22/2014 8:39:54 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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