Posted on 10/20/2014 9:22:19 PM PDT by Abakumov
While Francis I has nether denied not sought to change any doctrine, Cardinal Burke is correct. The pope has “done a lot of harm.” He has created confusion among the faithful and is soon going to have to speak with clarity on the unchanging truths of Catholicism.
In his beatification of Paul VI on Sunday, Pope Francis celebrated change. “God is not afraid of new things,” he said, “we are making every effort to adapt ways and methods … to the changing conditions of society.”
But among the social changes since Vatican II and Paul VI have been the West’s embrace of no-fault divorce, limitless promiscuity, abortion on demand and same-sex marriage.
Should the church “adapt” to these changes in society?
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Thank you Patrick J., St. Patrick of Buchananomics.
Much needed report, good research, sound opinion.
The short of it is it would be best that this pope find his just rewards in the after life and the sooner the better. Perhaps the Holy Spirit could find a more suitable and clear speaking candidate the next time.
Excellent analysis.
he was chosen for this time. Perhaps in the big picture, to eventually bring about a reawakening, or some other good.
I didn’t mean to criticize him. Patrick J. is pointing out the problems with the PR by quoting the Hierarchy. But the hierarchy is who chose him.
It was so stunning to see ‘Blue Bloods’ two weeks ago, criticizing the NYPD for not getting with the times, as the Church is starting to get with it.
Reflecting what a lot of my Northeastern Catholic friends and family think - that the Church can tell God what to do.
As if the rules regarding life, morality, virtue and getting into heaven are malleable like John Boehner or George W.
It just seems so harmful for the clergy to reinforce notions that the Church is a democratic system, open to change with the times.
People do not have to follow the rules of the Church. We are not beheaders not even confrontational evangelists, and judgment is left to God, though we’re called on to be bold with our knowledge. But God has his rules, they were set in stone and then reaffirmed 2000 years ago when the Church was founded.
NO one, not even a Pope has the power to change them.
Pat is just fomenting more fear. That’s his schtick.
Synods and Councils are messy, and the Holy Spirit allows weak men to debate and fight. The end result however is protected and new insights will be what the Holy Spirit permits.
Look back at the Synod before Paul 6 just COMPLETELY let every kook say his peace and listened, just like Francis. Humanae Vitae came out!!! Yet, it explained a lot about life and sexuality and the new insights were needed in the sexual revolutionary age. So too next year’s Synod.
Pat always lacks Faith in His Church, thinking it is safeguarded by popes and not Christ, but it IS safeguarded by Christ.
I swear, the guy loves creating confusion!
I’m not a Catholic like many on FR. But, Catholic posts such as this invite comments. I say, let the new Pope have his moment. Give him a chance.
This Pope is either very naive or an agent compromised but he is not the only one. Protestants have been infected with the false ideology of seeking acceptance and approval of a world that will never truly accept the church. The ideas forged in the sexual revolution (devolution) for the most part are pure blasphemy and run counter to core teachings of the bible both new and old Testament. You can not have Christianity and accept these corrupt paradigms of sexual immorality and a doctrine that ascribes to God glorification of such immoralities.
These ideas are demonstratively evil in that they warp God’s word into weak swill with no spiritual value. Yes people will feel good for a time thinking how refreshing it is to be free of the responsibility of being a real Christian that is till they realize that they have also freed themselves from the prospects of a real heaven. The gay liberatian theology is in particular a grand blasphemy substituting instincts, feelings, and emotional secular humanism for a relationship with Christ. This is not the first time in history of course that this kind of corruption of the church has occurred. The Chruch at Corinth was a perfect model for the churches today that want to embrace the world and its proud immoralities. Below is a passage where a man was going proudly to the church in an incestuous relationship with his father’s wife.
“1 It is actually reported that sexual immorality exists among you, the kind of immorality that is not permitted even among the Gentiles, so that someone is cohabiting with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you have been deeply sorrowful instead and removed the one who did this from among you? (1 Corinthians 5:1-2)”
Pat is right.
No one person can be bright on everything, even so some may think so and he is no exception.
>Perhaps the Holy Spirit could find a more suitable and clear speaking candidate the next time.<
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Go ahead, blame that poor Holy Spirit.
Man screws up, blame God.
Man wins the jackpot, forget God.
“While Francis I has nether denied not sought to change any doctrine...”
Can poor Patrick not afford an editor?
Frances and Obola are peas in a pod.
What I am saying is that the septuagenarian Pope with one lung has done enough damage and sewn enough confusion in a Church rife with fifty years of poor Catechism and barring a vow of silence, perhaps he can be rewarded sooner rather than later with eternal life.
This would free the Cardinals the opportunity to gain new enlightenment from the Holy Spirit and possibly find a Pope with more coherent thoughts.
How I miss those days when, early in the morning, I heard those joyful words: “Introibo ad Altare Dei”
RI Bishop: Synod Process is ‘Rather Protestant’
Crux ^ | 10/21/14 | Michael O’Loughlin
http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2014/10/21/ri-bishop-synod-process-is-rather-protestant/
“Pope Francis is fond of ‘creating a mess.’ Mission accomplished,” Bishop Thomas Tobin said.
He argued against what he called the pope’s suggestion that the Church “accommodate the needs of the age.” If that happens, he wrote, “the Church risks the danger of losing its courageous, counter-cultural, prophetic voice, a voice that the world needs to hear.”
When H.H. Pope Paul VI saw how Vatican II was separated from its original intend, with heartbroken words said: “It seems like smoke from Hell penetrated through the windows of the Vatican.”
It seems that now the smoke from Hell entered the Church embraced to the “liberation theology.”
Yes. The Church’s mission isn’t to change her rules to accommodate our sins
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