[Impala64ssa]

This begs the question, if Mr. & Mrs. Knapp were Black ministers and they refused to marry klan members, White supremacists, etc., or if they were rabbis who refused to marry neo nazis or Holocaust deniers, would they still face prosecution?

[Vaquero]

there will be a lot of Catholic priests in trouble.....exercising their 1st amendment rights.

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

It’s time to just separate religious marriage from the legal contract altogether. That’s what they do in France. Considering the fact that gay marriage has been forced down everyone’s throat (with other forms very likely to follow, such as polygamy) then just let Our Wonderful Government have the whole damn legal part. I really think the conservative position should be to separate the legal contract from religious marriage altogether.

[Mark17]

This begs the question, if Mr. & Mrs. Knapp were Black ministers and they refused to marry klan members, White supremacists, etc., or if they were rabbis who refused to marry neo nazis or Holocaust deniers, would they still face prosecution?

No. Pigmentation protection trumps all.

[Secret Agent Man]

note how they don’t threaten ANY other religion. particularly muslims.

note that 1.5% has barry saying the us is a muslim country. we have 70-75% considering themselves christian, 50 times that of the muslims, yet he uses govt to smack down on christians.

it’s time to remove these people from office and power forever.

[PGR88]

Only a homosexual would want to be “married” by someone who didn’t want to perform the ceremony. Many are petty, political and vindictive like that.

[BigEdLB]

ity Attorney Warren Wilson told The Spokesman-Review in May that the Hitching Post Wedding Chapel likely would be required to follow the ordinance. “I would think that the Hitching Post would probably be considered a place of public accommodation that would be subject to the ordinance,” he said. He also told television station KXLY that any wedding chapel that turns away a gay couple would in theory be a violation of the law “and you’re looking at a potential misdemeanor citation.” Wilson confirmed to Knapp in a telephone conversation that even ordained ministers would be required to perform same-sex weddings, the lawsuit alleges. “Wilson also responded that Mr. Knapp was not exempt from the ordinance because the Hitching Post was a business and not a church,” the lawsuit states. And if he refused to perform the ceremonies, Wilson reportedly told the minister that he could be fined up to $1,000 and serve up to 180 days in jail.

Recall Rules Idaho

In case anyone is here from Coeur d'Alene, and wants to gret the ball rolling against Wilson

[cuban leaf]

If the reinfection rate is higher than 1.0 then you have a high potential for a pandemic. The CDC has estimated the reinfection rate, R, as higher than 1.7. That is near disaster level.

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“For profit” means someone is earning an income. You don’t give up your constitutional rights in order to earn an income.

This is why Hobby Lobby won.

[msrngtp2002]

Then it’s time for them to stop being a tax paying, for profit business and become a non-profit, tax exempt church.

I don’t see the problem here. The city loses tax revenue is all. The pastors with some savvy legal help will still be able to earn a living, preach to the masses, and perform weddings that meet the Christian definition.

[Pearls Before Swine]

A suitable religious response would be “Go to hell!”

[rusty schucklefurd]

The problem with “it’s a business and not a church” is that that means any business that has anything to do with a wedding - i.e. renting a facility, a church building, a DJ, a live band, flower shop, bake shop, caterer, etc. - are now being prosecuted for discrimination if they refuse to have anything to do with a same-sex wedding.

Somehow, the courts want to separate “freedom of religion” from a business owner. If you serve the public in general, then, according to the libs, you give up your right to freedom of religion.

Further, a part of me wants to just say, forget “legal” wedding ceremonies and just perform “religious” ceremonies - but then, where do Christians or Orthodox Jews get legally married? If you are a Christian couple and get married by a minister, but the minister is not “sanctioned” by the state, then is that couple able to enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage?

I know in this day and age many couples just shack up and have kids and don’t seem to have legal issues, or do they? I don’t know. Anyone out there with any expertise on this issue?

[Myrddin]

The court says gay marriage is legal. It says nothing about WHERE it can or must be performed. Go down to the courthouse if marriage is what you want. If what you want is to offend religious convictions, head down to the local mosque with a beer and pork ribs. They will set you straight on the consequences of doing something that is legal and offensive.

[Steve_Seattle]

“Up to” $1,000 in fines? Previous reports said it was $1,000 PER DAY.

[ThePatriotsFlag]

Wonder if a Muslim cleric would marry a Christian couple? Supposedly they cannot. And getting a Muslim restaurant to serve hot dogs might be fun too. (Hey, you MUST bake gay cakes!). You can’t have these things both ways. How about a full body burka in white instead of black ...ummm, no I think that was already tried. So maybe black ones are illegal? Fun to think about using these silly things to OUR benefit.

[11th_VA]

Sheesh, who would have expected the Spanish Inquisition ...

[MacMattico]

I seem to recall being told “support gay marriage! It won't affect you and we won't make anyone perform a wedding that doesn't want to.” Wasn't that part of many “vote yes” campaigns? My dad used to be a Mayor. I don't know if he had to do weddings or just did because people asked and he could. If he were forced to do a gay marriage-— omg the video would go viral!

I still don't understand why certain people want to pay others to provide them with a service they don't believe in. Why can't they find a gay person to marry them? And the whole cake thing— damn I'm not paying for or eating a cake made by someone who doesn't want to do it! Yuck!

[KTM rider]

doesnt that violate the sacred liberal pseudo-constitutional " Separation of Church and State " ? ??

.....Oh nevermind, that must only apply to historic crosses out in the desert, or embedded in official seal logos

[RWB Patriot]

One of the biggest signs that property rights are dying is when people are no longer allowed to decide who they will share their property with, for good or ill reasons.

[SkyPilot]

The Persecution of the Last Days has begun, and it will only get much, much worse.

[Sam Gamgee]

I always thought as fracked up things are in the US with Obama, that Canada would always outdo America in destroying freedom, such as through our human rights tribunals; but as far as I know there hasn't been a case yet threatening pastors to betray their beliefs in this regard.

[WayneS]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.