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To: Jeff Head
"Their J-16s and their J-15Ss will be more than adequate for the Chinese needs"

What do they have, 4 or 5 of each of those? Those are still under development and Chinese development cycles, if the WS-10 is any indication, run about 25 years with another 10 years in limited production.

That said, they seem to be able to assemble airframes at a reasonable rate and they don't often crack or disintegrate.

Still running on AL-31 engines with preliminary discussion of limited purchases of the AL-41 to continue the J-20 fantasy.

It would be fun to watch the Chinese Air Force get in a skirmish with Japanese or Korean F-15's.

No Contest. Hell, their best would struggle mightily against the F-18.

Great on paper but little more than a Saddam-esque cartoon in reality.

16 posted on 10/18/2014 7:43:14 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Actually, they built 5-6 prototype J-15s and tested them for the last 3-4 years. They have now started serial production and have another 12 production aircraft, with more coming out fairly regularly now. Twin engine, basically a modernized Su-33 with new avionics, composites, and of course, able to carry the Chinese weapon systems.

As to the J-16, it is a beefed up structurally, with significantly greater fuel capacity version of their J-11B training aircraft. It’s their version of the F-15E. They have also built and tested prototypes of that aircraft and gone into serial production. They may have as many as twenty altoghter now.

Both of these aircraft are very decent 4.5 generation aircraft with AESA radars, composites structural components, radar absorbent material, MAWS, more modern Chinese ECM upgrades, and they both use the Chinese engines exclusively.

No, they are certainly not in a league with the F-22, or the F-35 for that matter.

But they would be taken seriously by any US or allied fighter wing. The Chinese have come a long way in the last 10-15 years and should not be discounted or considered to be trifling. They have modern equipment and they have the funds to regularly train their personnel.

At a time when this current administration is doing all in its power to weaken US military capabilities...and filling leadership positions with mush-minded personnel who think as they do.

I pray for a turn around by the American people, who will elect true American leadership that will emphasize our true national interests and put in place the people and program to faithfully strengthen and defend those interests.

In the mean time, we are allowing the Chinese...who are predominantly doing it with funds they are getting from us (and seeking to get themselves into an international position with Europe, Africa, South America, and other places in Asia to become much less dependent on us financially), to rapidly close a gap that should never have been allowed an opportunity to become one whit narrower.


17 posted on 10/18/2014 9:42:16 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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