Posted on 10/17/2014 6:50:07 AM PDT by thetallguy24
An opened religious freedom in the military will include Muslims.
No. While all sorts of devout folks serve, none require special treatment.
Be devout but be part of the team. My Christian faith was never an issue, as my performance of my craft was what defined my service over some 22 years. Fellow Soldiers knew who I was by both my actions and my conversation, but I did not expect to be able to be treated any differently than the atheist or agnostic etc I fought alongside.
My heritage was secure in my own mind and heart, not in some external display.
We would not let a Ghurka wear his Kukri either....
Sikhs bombed Air India 182 killing 329 people, 268 of them Canadians.
Watch this video: Sikh Extremists in Canada
To a Sikh the hair and head covering is not nonsense.
Must have changed the masks since 1964. Another concession like the M-16 to political correctness?
“To a Sikh the hair and head covering is not nonsense.”
So? The military has lots of people that have beliefs not fit for the military.
The bottom line is that Sikhs make superb soldiers in every army they belong to. Being a soldier is highly respected among Sikhs, and they are intensely loyal. Those who are not soldiers tend to be middle class entrepreneurs and professionals.
The formerly British, now Indian Sikh Regiment is one of the most highly decorated regiments in the world.
Sikhs fought in World War I and II.
Because of prejudice against them they were forced out of the US military in the 1980s, over demands that they shave and not wear their olive-drab turbans, and they were very unhappy about this discrimination. When the rules were changed to permit their return they celebrated, and the first Sikh graduate of a US military school was held up as a semi-hero and role model.
From my own experience, every Sikh soldier I’ve met was disciplined, their uniform was perfect, their attitude good, they were capable in their duties, and they were motivated to be good soldiers.
Poor sikhs. I feel so bad for them. Did you know that Sikhs hold yearly homages to the murderers of Indira Gandhi? They are considered "martyrs" of sikhism.
I would be astonished to learn that any Sikhs were serving in the US military general ranks anywhere in the 1980's while wearing turbans, beards and daggers.
If they were serving, I am certain they would have been clean shaven and not wearing turbans or carrying daggers. More likely, a group probably began pressuring the military to allow it, and when the military would not allow it, the Sikhs who WERE serving honorably were forced to make a choice by the very people lobbying to quit or no longer be considered a Sikh. Cast out unless they left the military.
But I could be mistaken. Can you provide any information on this?
Are you suggesting that we form separate Sikh regiments in the US Army?
We don't do that. The question is whether a Sikh soldier can be held to standards different from the non-Sikh standing next to him. That leads to trouble.
Now, we do have women held to different standards, so I suppose we could say to hell with standards. Which is likely what will happen.
And a bird colonel:
And do you remember *why* Indira Gandhi was so hated by the Sikhs? You might read up a bit on Operation Blue Star.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Blue_Star
Hell, Obama would be on the same footing with Mormons, if he ordered them to raid the Mormon temple at Salt Lake City, before looting and burning out their mountain library of records. That sort of thing don’t make friends.
No, the Sikhs in the US military always wore turbans and had beards, along with the small ceremonial version of their dagger they kept in their pockets.
The US had Sikhs in the Special Forces as well as the regular army, and they preferred to be in combat arms, instead of combat support or combat service support. Their expulsion was rapid, because not a single one of them would give up their turban or beard.
No, I am not proposing a Sikh regiment in the US army. And Sikhs in the US army have very few disciplinary problems, so if somebody has heartburn with their turban or beard, it would be them that has the problem.
And no, uniformity has little or no meaning, beyond uniforms, because soldiers are tall and short, all races, several religions as well as atheists. Many black male soldiers have “shaving profiles”, caused by Pseudofolliculitis barbae, which means that they cannot shave every day, and even so, their faces are covered by scarring.
Having a turban and beard becomes even less a problem the higher the rank of the Sikh. The last one I saw in the Army was a Master Sergeant, Green Beret, in the Special Forces Reserves.
Yeah, Yeah, and a couple more to go with him.
Yes, Muslims also serve in the Military. Most of them with honor.
Speaking of Muslims in the military - what’s the count now? You know, Muslim service members who’ve killed other Americans?
Hasan got 13 by himself and injured around 30 more.
You are defending Sikh terrorists?
Talk about a force multiplier ...
You defending a tyrant slaughtering civilians?
Indira Gandhi was a tyrant. Sic Semper Tyrannis.
Sikhs are obviously a discipline problem that is why they are always rabble rousing to change the U.S. Army, and how many are serving, 3, a half dozen? how many? Also, why does that Green Beret one always get mentioned?
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