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Ebola the Culture War
The American Conservative ^ | October 13, 2014 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 10/14/2014 4:58:29 AM PDT by yldstrk

I have been out of the country all month, returning over the weekend. Staying up on American news while abroad was not a priority for me; I looked in every few days. When I was standing in the customs line at JFK, a fellow passenger told me that the airport was going to begin screening travelers from West African flights for fever starting tomorrow. We talked about Ebola, and took comfort that it isn’t passed pneumonically. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized what a vector for transmission an airplane toilet would be. The BBC asked experts about this, and concluded that the chances of infection via airplane passenger are low.

Anyway, I learned over the weekend that to raise the question of whether or not we should refuse travelers from Ebola-infected countries is to identify oneself as a right-wing nut, and possibly even a racist. Apparently — according to some liberal readers of this blog — Limbaugh and the usual suspects are working Ebola fears into political talking points. It is therefore required of all decent and right-thinking people to take the opposite position. So I’ve learned.

(Excerpt) Read more at theamericanconservative.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: airlines; ebola
Good article.
1 posted on 10/14/2014 4:58:29 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk

Interesting. Thanks. So the best prepared hospitals aren’t in places I’d expect (or Schumer thinks either). Nor is the US nearly as prepared as the CDC and present Obala is claiming.

“Schumer: NY hospitals better prepared than Dallas for ebola”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3214819/posts


2 posted on 10/14/2014 5:18:11 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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To: null and void; LucyT; Liz; sickoflibs; Smokin' Joe
A hard truth: So let’s look at that infrastructure.

There are, in fact, a total of four medical isolation units in the entire United States, as we noted yesterday, that are capable of handling infected Ebola patients near endlessly.

Where are they, and what can they handle?

Emory University’s Serious Communicable Disease Unit is in Atlanta, GA. That’s where Brantly and Writebol were treated. It has three beds. St. Patrick Hospital’s ICU Isolation Unit is in Missoula MT. It has three beds. The National Institute of Health’s Special Clinical Studies Unit is in Bethesda MD. It has seven beds. And the biggest, the Nebraska Medical Center’s Biocontainment Unit is in Omaha NE. It has ten beds.

3+3+7+10=23 beds, coast to coast.

So, for the entire country, all 316,100,000+ of us, we’re fully prepared to treat 23 Ebola patients at the same time.

3 posted on 10/14/2014 5:18:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: GOPJ
During Swine Flu, the gov tried quarantining those with suspicious symptoms. It showed how horribly unprepared the medical environment was, and this was to handle just quarantines, not isolation.

It's amazing that in the five years since the gov hasn't set up a facility which could handle an extreme situation. Heck, for all we know the gov already has one for the elite.

(gosh, and to think I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists <^..^>)

4 posted on 10/14/2014 5:24:14 AM PDT by grania
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To: GOPJ; sickoflibs; ken5050; Grampa Dave; Tennessee Nana; AuntB
......to question whether we should refuse travelers from Ebola-infected countries is to identify oneself as a right-wing nut, even a racist......

Hillary wrote " it takes a village." But it took only one doofus--- Obama---to expose the lib/prog's dumb "humanitarian" elitism that is endangering Americans and their families.

These brain-dead, feel-good types with a "Heart of Gold," believe “singling out” backward nations or antediluvian cultures which pose deadly threats to the public health or safety of Americans “stigmatizes” those nations or cultures, it “shames” them, it makes them "feel" unequal.

It’s (horrors) "judgmental."

We can never, Ever suggest that America prefers already existing tax-paying, law-abiding citizens to diseased foreigners or those w/ big plans for our heads.

5 posted on 10/14/2014 5:31:51 AM PDT by Liz ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: GOPJ

Well, that’s one more bed than I had chased down. I had previously posted there were only 22. My bad.


6 posted on 10/14/2014 6:08:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

7 posted on 10/14/2014 6:10:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Liz
We can never, Ever suggest that America prefers already existing tax-paying, law-abiding citizens to diseased foreigners...

You're right Liz... Also, conservatives are looking for 'immigrants' who will be our neighbors and fellow citizens.

Liberal elites want immigrants as servants or dependent voters who will keep white liberal elites in office.

8 posted on 10/14/2014 6:11:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: grania
(gosh, and to think I used to laugh at conspiracy theorists <^..^>)

LOL - good on grania

9 posted on 10/14/2014 6:12:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: GOPJ
DESERVES A REPEAT---conservatives expect 'immigrants' to be neighbors and fellow citizens.

Liberal elites want servants; dependent voters on-the- dole, who'll keep white liberal elites in office.

10 posted on 10/14/2014 6:24:24 AM PDT by Liz ("Sooner or later everyone sits down to a banquet of consequences." Robert Louis Stevenson)
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To: yldstrk; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

11 posted on 10/14/2014 6:37:46 AM PDT by null and void ("Agoraphobia": fear of the marketplace; "AlGoreaphobia": fear of the marketplace of ideas.)
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To: GOPJ

Thank you for enumerating the cold hard facts. I am saving them for future reference to educate those that are intelligent enough to grasp them,, and to hell with the libs - they are morons anyway!


12 posted on 10/14/2014 7:03:03 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want a Speaker who'll stick that pen and phone where no one but Reggie Love can find it!)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks for this update and where these units are. Earlier this week, we heard that there were 19 beds.

Interesting that about half the beds are in low population areas like Montana and Nebraska. Makes one wonder why in those spots/areas.

I did a little editing on your last sentence.

“There are, in fact, a total of four medical isolation units in the entire United States, as we noted yesterday, that are capable of handling infected Ebola patients near endlessly.

Where are they, and what can they handle?

Emory University’s Serious Communicable Disease Unit is in Atlanta, GA. That’s where Brantly and Writebol were treated. It has three beds. St. Patrick Hospital’s ICU Isolation Unit is in Missoula MT. It has three beds. The National Institute of Health’s Special Clinical Studies Unit is in Bethesda MD. It has seven beds. And the biggest, the Nebraska Medical Center’s Biocontainment Unit is in Omaha NE. It has ten beds.

3+3+7+10=23 beds, coast to coast.

So, for the entire country, all 316,100,000+ of us, we’re fully prepared to safely and properly treat 23 Ebola patients at the same time.”


13 posted on 10/14/2014 9:52:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I, Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: yldstrk

pneumonically

***
???

I guess he means “pneumatically”....


14 posted on 10/14/2014 2:32:23 PM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 10/14/2014 9:42:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


16 posted on 10/14/2014 11:06:39 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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