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'Protective clothing doesn't work against Ebola': (Outrage after Spanish nurse catches virus)
The Daily Mail ^ | 7 October 2014 | Damien Gayle, Lizzie Parry & Stephanie Linning

Posted on 10/07/2014 8:35:44 AM PDT by Fenhalls555

Anger was growing in Spain today over how a nurse became infected with Ebola as it was claimed the protective suits given to health officials were not good enough.

Four suspected Ebola patients are now in hospital in Madrid after the nurse was confirmed as the first person to catch the virus outside of West Africa.

The escalation in Spain's Ebola outbreak comes as officials revealed 30 people were being monitored for symptoms, including the woman's husband.

It has also since emerged that a week before she tested positive for Ebola she had contacted health workers to complain of a fever and fatigue, telling them she had helped treat two priests who contracted Ebola in Africa and were repatriated to Spain.

But it wasn't until she went to her local hospital on Monday that she was finally admitted and tested for the virus.

It is not the same hospital where she worked, raising questions over the number of people she has come into contact with.

Meanwhile the World Health Organisation warned that it is 'unavoidable' more cases will be diagnosed in Europe.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ebola; ebolaclothing; ebolagear; ebolaoutbreak; ebolavictim; europe; spain; spainnurse
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1 posted on 10/07/2014 8:35:44 AM PDT by Fenhalls555
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To: Fenhalls555
suits given to health officials were not good enough.

do you have to put them on?

2 posted on 10/07/2014 8:39:30 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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3 posted on 10/07/2014 8:41:58 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Heck, the Obola “government”-Tyranny says measuring
the temperature twice a day is sufficient protection.


4 posted on 10/07/2014 8:42:47 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The protective clothing works, it the safety protocols that aren’t taken seriously.


5 posted on 10/07/2014 8:43:40 AM PDT by gwgn02
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To: Fenhalls555

I could imagine that you could get virus particles from the exterior of the protective suits when you changed out, if there weren’t additional disinfective procedures focused on the suit going on. I imagine there would have to be.

Anyone know details?


6 posted on 10/07/2014 8:46:19 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: gwgn02

Bingo!


7 posted on 10/07/2014 8:50:29 AM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: livius

More info here.


8 posted on 10/07/2014 8:51:28 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SgtHooper; gwgn02

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain

“Staff at the hospital where she worked told El País that the protective suits they were given did not meet World Health Organisation (WHO) standards, which specify that suits must be impermeable and include breathing apparatus. Staff also pointed to latex gloves secured with adhesive tape as an example of how the suits were not impermeable and noted that they did not have their own breathing equipment.”

Pictures of our healthcare workers in this country in their CDC approved protective garb:

http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2014/10/us_hospitals_ready_to_treat_eb.html

Pictures of MSF workers in THEIR protective garb:

http://pulse.ng/news/disturbing-we-are-losing-battle-against-ebola-msf-reveals-id3101869.html

Which group (al nurses or msf nurses) do you think has a higher risk of exposure?


9 posted on 10/07/2014 8:54:31 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: All

Unfortunately, our politicians & government are focused on containment and the new word in recent news cycles, “optics”. Containment in today’s world is politically, financially and resourcefully impossible. It can be argued for & against until everyone’s blue in the face. Not...going...to...happen!!!!

The best and most logical answer is to find a cure or an effective treatment that dramatically improves the survival rate without overloading the medical system. If neither of those two are determined within the next three months, it is going to be a long winter....


10 posted on 10/07/2014 9:05:19 AM PDT by Maringa
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To: Fenhalls555; Oldeconomybuyer

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212264/posts

UPDATE 2-Four hospitalised in Spain after first Ebola transmission outside Africa
Reuters ^ | October 7, 2014 | By Inmaculada Sanz and Sarah Morris
Posted on 10/7/2014 6:27:55 AM by Oldeconomybuyer

* Nurse who treated missionaries caught Ebola in Madrid

* Husband hospitalised but shows no Ebola symptoms so far

* Another health worker and a traveller hospitalised

* Health authorities say they are “revising protocols” (Adds new details, background)


11 posted on 10/07/2014 9:15:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: Fenhalls555

Even more worries and concerns for American RNs:

American Nurses are rightfully concerned about the lack of training, guidance and necessary personal gear and supplies to handle/treat suspected patients with Ebola.

Nurses stage Ebola ‘die-in’ on Las Vegas Strip.

http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/news/entry/nurses-pretend-to-die-during-ebola-protest-in-las-vegas/

http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2014/09/24/3318356_nurses-to-march-on-vegas-strip.html?rh=1

American Rns say that they are unprepared to handle ebola patients.

http://www.nationalnursesunited.org/news/entry/us-nurses-say-they-are-unprepared-to-handle-ebola-patients/


12 posted on 10/07/2014 9:17:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: gwgn02
The protective clothing works, it the safety protocols that aren’t taken seriously.

BTTT

13 posted on 10/07/2014 9:20:45 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The article says the same:

‘The protective suits that Ebola workers wear provide excellent protection, but there is a danger when it is time to take the suit off.

‘It is also possible that a tiny amount of Ebola-containing liquid splashed on the protective garments, and then was transferred to her skin while removing the protective clothing.’


14 posted on 10/07/2014 9:22:15 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Black Agnes
http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2014/10/us_hospitals_ready_to_treat_eb.html

This is scary re no protective head gear and zero face mask/just a shield.


15 posted on 10/07/2014 9:23:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (I Barrack E Obolabama support the left wing war on Ebola. Fox News and Republicans will fight me.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

When I taught OSHA hazardous waste handling training there were very specific decontamination procedures for the outside of the suits that were performed while the person was still in containment or in a special recon structure built on site for things such as chemical spills.


16 posted on 10/07/2014 9:24:52 AM PDT by redangus
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To: Grampa Dave

That’s CDC approved protection in that picture.

Glad I’m not a nurse.


17 posted on 10/07/2014 9:25:38 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Fenhalls555

It probably happened when she took the protective garb off or was disposing it.


18 posted on 10/07/2014 9:26:55 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: thackney

Ok, let’s buy that for the means of infection argument.

Had the workers NOT been wearing the protective suits, just regular aprons and scrubs...that same droplet of infectious liquid would have fallen on those instead. Or on unprotected skin somewhere. And infected the worker when they changed clothes or took off the apron later on.

Specious argument at best.


19 posted on 10/07/2014 9:27:16 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: redangus

DECON not RECON, sorry.


20 posted on 10/07/2014 9:27:31 AM PDT by redangus
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