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Newt Gingrich : 2014-10-04 : 11 GOP Principles for America
Newt Gingrich ^ | 2014-10-04 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 10/04/2014 9:23:45 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Patton@Bastogne

I don’t know if the book was ever published. Maybe he had it pulled for some reason. Maybe you are right that he cancelled the book that would have proved he was still a real conservative. lol


21 posted on 10/04/2014 10:16:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: freedomfiter2
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Since you like the chart (compiled by Jim Robinson) what's your opinion of the most important difference between Gingrich and Romney ?

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22 posted on 10/04/2014 10:19:44 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

later


23 posted on 10/04/2014 10:21:16 AM PDT by MikeinMotley
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To: GeronL
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GeronL,

With all due respect, Newt Gingrich was a far superior record of "accomplishments" as political conservative than you and I combined.

Facts is facts.


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24 posted on 10/04/2014 10:22:15 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

1. Our Constitution should be preserved, valued and honored

The Constitution is not a museum piece. It is to be enforced.

2. We need to start growing America’s economy instead of Washington’s economy so that working Americans see better wages and more opportunity.

Warm and fuzzy.

3. We need to pass a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution

Depends. I can hear a politician explaining that because of the amendment a tax increase is mandated. Reduction in the rate of increase in spending is calamitous to the political class, an actual reduction in spending impossible. This could be very dangerous.

4. We need to start over with real healthcare reform

Federal involvement with health care is not Constitutional (see point 1). Failed government programs are not only bankrupting us but have distorted market forces and destroyed affordable routine health care. The PPACA “reform” is in truth not a reform at all but a vast expansion of government programs. Abolition of government involvement, ridding ourselves of New Deal and Great Society programs, and a return to a market free of government interference and price-fixing cartels is what we need.

7. Every child should have an equal opportunity to get a great education; no parent should be forced to send their child to a failing school.

Abolish the NEA. Abolish government schools.

11. We need an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy.

We have an immigration system that secures our borders, upholds the law, and boosts our economy - ENFORCE IT.

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Once again the great minds of the GOP fail to indicate a direction which differs substantively from that of the Democrats. They are pulled along in the same direction and reach the same destination, perhaps arriving more slowly, but not a different destination. Not a destination of Liberty.

Where is the call for abolishment of the New Deal? The Great Society? Where is the call for a return to the Constitution, not as a revered relic in a museum, but as the Supreme Law of the United States?

They are not interested in Liberty, only more statism. Their selling point “our brand can do it better”.


25 posted on 10/04/2014 10:23:52 AM PDT by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: GeronL
    Three Principles For All Leaders
  1. Fear God
  2. Love the truth
  3. Hate covetousness
I'll vote for people who demonstrate these principles. Otherwise, don't waste your breath Newt.
26 posted on 10/04/2014 10:29:44 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
With all due respect, Newt Gingrich was a far superior record of "accomplishments" as political conservative than you and I combined.

Is that the only reason you continue to smooch his posterior or are there others?

27 posted on 10/04/2014 10:31:01 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: GeronL

Aren’t we supposed to import a bazillion new dhimmocrat/mehhicccans to keep wages down?


28 posted on 10/04/2014 10:47:32 AM PDT by Flintlock (Deport them ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!)
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To: humblegunner
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Hey ... where you've been ?

I can't believe that it's taken you all morning (today) to share your wit and wisdom ...

Best Regards ...


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29 posted on 10/04/2014 10:58:43 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Don Corleone

Bingo!! The Contract With America was FABULOUS!!!! It stated that if you elected them they would have votes on those ten things in a short amount of time. I think they all passed except Term Limits......OK with me....all the other items were GREAT!!


30 posted on 10/04/2014 11:13:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I Googled searched Gingrich and Van Jones Prisoner eduction.

They wrote a joint article about education and training
and other topics related to prisoners. Some of the points were worth examining in more detail.

But I find it reprehensible that Newt would write an article or appear on CNN or any TV show with Van Jones. It is Miss Nancy all over again. What respect I had for Newt has dropped to Zero.


31 posted on 10/04/2014 11:22:11 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I will acknowledge that I have heard Newt give one of the best presentations on the Founding Principles and Documents, I have ever heard. I thought everyone should hear it, more than once.

Then he turns right around, goes outside and spews something that has absolutely no ideological connection with what he just presented.

The man simply isn’t all there. I’d love to support the guy making the great presentation. Sadly, I’d wind up with the guy outside.

I do not support Newt.


32 posted on 10/04/2014 11:26:54 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama and the Left are maggots feeding off the flesh of the United States.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; pallis; Jim Robinson; All
Patton, thank you for posting this discussion. Jim, posts like this are why I come to and financially support FR. God bless you and yours.

... limited government, the principle that would solve most of our problems...

Truer words were never written. Amoral government "charity" creates an amoral entitlement dependent class because, unlike true moral charity from churches and private organizations, it is forced and of zero moral value. Limit government AWAY from the role of charity, problem reduced.

Amoral government "antidiscrimination" prohibits the moral acts of turning away from and snubbing open homosexuality, telling it to go somewhere else. Limit government AWAY from the role of morality, problem reduced.

Amoral government decides that abortion is a privacy issue and prohibits states from outlawing it -- and THEN government, through various programs, forces taxpayers to subsidize abortion as a "right" to any American!

LIMIT government AWAY from telling the States what to do ... problem reduced.

Education is a mess because the government has totally overtaken every aspect of it, from student loans to tenure of bad teachers. Limit government AWAY ... American kids stop getting brainwashed.

Jim, a major problem is that limited government, which is small-l libertarianism defined and embraced by millions of otherwise politically ambivalent Americans who just want their freedoms back, is the key to all of this, yet a small handful of morally social conservatives on Free Republic -- totalitarian in bent, with visions of using government to enforce morality, which it has no business doing except for basic civil/criminal law -- spew vomit such as "you support homosexual child molesters and pushing drugs because you dare mention small-l libertarian" and alienate many good, sensible, moral, Christian people when this serious thing comes up for discussion.

It is a shame.

33 posted on 10/04/2014 11:28:20 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

He lost me at No. 1. The Constitution is NOT to be “preserved, valued and honored”! That’s pure B.S. The GOPe tries to DESTROY any would-be candidate who stands for constitutional government.

The Constitution is to be studied, enforced and obeyed!
I quit reading at that point.

Every mailing I get from Republican HQ goes into the round file unopened. No more Bob Doles and Mitt Romneys! And no more democRAT Lite! George Wallace was right. There’s not a dime’s worth of difference!


34 posted on 10/04/2014 11:33:45 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Patton@Bastogne; TomGuy
I would be happy if Roe v Wade was overturned. That would be good enough for me because it would then place in the hands of the people the authority to pursue what morality does and doesn't become punishable by government. I would also be okay with Federal prohibition of abortion as well.

I am no purist -- for all his flaws, and they are many, had Gingrich won the presidential primary in 2012, I'd have voted for him with hope for positive change. Like Dubya he'd probably have woefully disappointed me, but then again, I read his entire web site that was substantial in real vision and information. TomGuy is correct, however, when he notes in post #4 above that here, Gingrich is speaking in pretty general terms. Lots of platitudes, very little meat. UNLIKE his campaign page in 2012, I hasten to add.

I voted for Eternal Vigilance in 2012. I will vote third party again in 2016 if the Republican party does what I fully expect it to do, and manipulates the nomination of a Democrat Republican -- a member of the Republican party who is philosophically on board with the Democrats in assigning enforcement roles to government that are so wrong as health care, forced cooperation with open homosexuality, and on-demand subsidized abortion.

Whether they admit it or not, every person who voted for Romney voted FOR the same things the Democrats want, morally, socially, and fiscally.

The only thing that counts is what you vote FOR.

35 posted on 10/04/2014 11:42:57 AM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I believe that charts can be very misleading but, the obvious answer is that 20 years ago Newt was successfully fighting for conservative ideas. That is something that none of the GOPe candidates can claim. I believe that Newt has since been wishy washy and undependable.


36 posted on 10/04/2014 12:45:19 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: freedomfiter2
I believe that Newt has since been wishy washy and undependable.

After his 1999 tune-up by the GOP-E, he has been all over the map.

37 posted on 10/04/2014 12:49:59 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Finny

Roe vs. Wade was a court opinion, in a particular case. An illogical, stupid, immoral, unconstitutional, and therefore unlawful, opinion. So, there’s nothing to be “overturned.” Only laws can be overturned. We the People, via our Constitution, only gave one department of government lawmaking ability, and even that authority has limits.

This is not a nitpick, my friend. It’s fundamental, though sadly forgotten by most these days.

Roe should be ignored, in the same way Dred Scott vs. Sanford, or Nazi “laws,” are ignored.

All unjust or unconstitutional laws or court opinions are null and void.

Something I wrote on this subject a couple years back:


The practice of human abortion violates every single clause of the stated purposes of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, and its explicit, imperative requirements. It is the worst sort of lawless rebellion against the laws of nature and of nature’s God.

The stated purposes of the Constitution of the United States, the Supreme Law of the Land:

“We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The idea that it is the law of the land is the biggest, most destructive lie ever told in America.

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its first purpose the formation of a more perfect Union. The practice of human abortion destroys the most fundamental familial bonds that unite humanity, the natural ties between a mother and her child, destroys the unity of families and communities, and is well on its way to destroying the Union we call America.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the establishment of Justice. There can be no greater physical injustice committed towards any innocent person than to murder them.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the insuring of domestic Tranquility. The practice of human abortion is the cruelest violence that could possibly be committed against women, children, and their families. It has, in fact, filled our land with violence, burdening the national conscience with guilt for the shed blood of countless tens of millions of innocent little boys and girls.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the provision of the common Defense. That is, by definition, the defense of ALL persons in America. The practice of human abortion is the destruction of the child AND the destruction of Equality.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the promotion of the general Welfare. That is, by definition, the welfare, or well-being, of ALL persons in America. Again, the practice of human abortion is the destruction of the child AND the destruction of Equality.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land states as its purpose the securing of the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. The practice of human abortion has already obliterated nearly an entire generation, depriving each individual victim of any possible chance to enjoy any of the Blessings of Liberty, and, by erasing entire bloodlines, it is obliterating Posterity itself.

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land, in the Fifth Amendment, explicitly and imperatively forbids the killing of any innocent person, the willful destruction of any person who has not been charged, tried, and convicted of a capital offense. Abortion is the grossest violation of Due Process imaginable.

“No person shall be deprived of life without due process of law.” — The Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Abortion is NOT “the law of the land.”

The Supreme Law of the Land, in the Fourteenth Amendment, explicitly and imperatively requires every State in the Union to equally protect the right to life of every innocent person, and requires that each and every person be provided with the Equal Protection of the laws by each State. The practice of human abortion is the grossest violation of Equal Protection imaginable.

“No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” — The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

Even if abortion was “the law of the land,” which it is not, any such lawless law or constitution would be NULL AND VOID anyway, grossly violating as it must the first Law of Nature, which is the absolute right and DUTY of the people, and of ALL governments, to protect innocent life, individual liberty, and private property.

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can. These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation, commonly called the first law of nature.” — Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists, the Report of the Committee of Correspondence to the Boston Town Meeting, November 20, 1772

“An unjust law is no law at all.” – St. Augustine of Hippo

“Good and wise men, in all ages...have supposed, that the Deity, from the relations, we stand in, to Himself and to each other, has constituted an eternal and immutable law, which is, indispensably, obligatory upon all mankind, prior to any human institution whatever. This is what is called the law of nature, which, being coeval with mankind, and dictated by God himself, is, of course superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries at all times. No human laws are of any validity, if contrary to this; and such of them as are valid, derive all their authority, mediately or immediately, from this original.” — William Blackstone

“When human laws contradict or discountenance the means, which are necessary to preserve the essential rights of any society, they defeat the proper end of all laws, and so become null and void.” — Alexander Hamilton

Not only is the practice of human abortion NOT “the law of the land,” it COULD NOT BE the law of a land premised as this one is in a clear understanding and acknowledgment of the laws of nature and of nature’s God.

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain UNALIENABLE rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men...” — The Declaration of Independence

Every elected executive, every legislator, every judge, that allows the practice of human abortion to continue anywhere in America is in gross violation of their sacred oath of office. They have, as our constitutional republic’s founders charged against King George III in our nation’s charter, the Declaration of Independence, “abdicated government here by declaring us out of [their] protection and waging war against us.”

They must, by any and all lawful means, be removed and replaced by those who understand the foundations for law in America and the most fundamental and important obligations of their oaths.

That, by the mercy and grace of God, is the only hope we have to prevent the further destruction of America.


38 posted on 10/04/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Unjust or unconstitutional laws are no laws at all. They are null and void.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Understood, thank you for the illumination and the clarification, and God bless you!
39 posted on 10/04/2014 3:24:48 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Finny

You too, Finny.


40 posted on 10/04/2014 4:12:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Unjust or unconstitutional laws are no laws at all. They are null and void.)
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