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Investment & Finance End of 2014 Q3 into Q4 Thread Edition
Weekly investment & finance thread ^ | Sept. 26, 2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 09/28/2014 10:13:30 AM PDT by expat_panama

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To: Grampa Dave
Gold Will Plunge To $660

Well that's just fine and dandy. I'm not saying it will or won't but what is the Total Cost of mining gold from the ground right now? I'm talking from land acquisition, permitting, infrastructure, mining, transportation, processing to reclamation work. Last I heard it was over $900/oz. Many mining cos. will fold up like a cheap accordion. They have no choice. Right now Randgold Resources (GOLD) is in African ebola/AIDS country. So they could have some attrition of miners.

81 posted on 10/03/2014 3:32:26 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I vacation in Sierra Leone and all I got was this lousy T-shirt and a case of ebola.)
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To: BipolarBob

Excellent points.

Will we see ghost towns and vacant buildings in the areas you mention?


82 posted on 10/03/2014 5:35:17 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Sunni White house thugs & EObolo, aren't upset @ be-headings. They are upset @ the massive outcry!)
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To: All
OK, the internet here is fixed --more or less.

What happened was that last Thursday there was a freak windstorm that knocked out towers used by both my main ISP and my back up ISP --which was why every time I wanted to log on I had to climb on my roof and connect the computer & cell phone thru a parabolic reflector I got ducktaped to my roof deck. 8P The next day one ISP came back up but it's been intermittent so I'll type fast today...

83 posted on 10/05/2014 6:33:32 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: BipolarBob; Grampa Dave
Gold Will Plunge To $660...   ...Cost of mining gold from the ground right now?

There are tens of thousands of different gold suppliers (biggest bunch are Chinese) and they all have different total cost levels across a very broad range.  So much for supply; gold demand is mostly jewelry and fashions change so if it's no longer 'chic' and nobody wants to pay more than $100, there will still be sellers. OK, very few but some.   Historically --over the past couple centuries-- gold's price in 2014$ has averaged about five or six hundred dollars.

84 posted on 10/05/2014 6:37:32 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch
It's been all over the news --and you were there --CONGRATS!! Two things; one is that I'm not very happy w/ how his logic seems to point to the conclusions he shared, and the other is that I honestly can't fault his reasoning.
85 posted on 10/05/2014 6:42:11 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
Thanks!  CNN says they use all these 7 indicators:

-but from what I see those numbers still have quite a ways to go.  So we're going into what, negative fear?

86 posted on 10/05/2014 7:24:43 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch; abb
Food CPI:

The numbers going back to 1950 had me confused until I saw the axis was linear --a log Y shows food prices grew more in the '70's than before or after.  What's interesting though is that food prices really haven't diverged much from overall prices --personal anecdotes/impressions not withstanding.  Everyone cares that this past year food prices have in fact risen faster than most prices but at the time nobody said anything in 2009 when food prices fell while everything else went up.

87 posted on 10/05/2014 8:49:07 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Good stuff. It’s critical to know how leadership thinks. Panetta doesn’t seem that sharp, but also doesn’t seem that sinister. Thanks. Are you going to post the housing stuff you heard/learned?


88 posted on 10/06/2014 5:40:03 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: expat_panama; BipolarBob; Grampa Dave

It would make a great commodity short, wouldn’t it?


89 posted on 10/06/2014 5:43:05 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

If you followed their indicators you’d have missed a lot.


90 posted on 10/06/2014 6:05:18 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

yeah, it probably would, but my track record in shorting is spotty because sell-offs tend to be erratic and hard to gauge. Rallies are soo much more fun...


91 posted on 10/06/2014 6:28:16 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: BipolarBob
My APT play had an outcome. I bought a few hundred shares two months ago at 2.09 and I had a "sell" on them at 5.75. They sold for $6.77 this AM. Does that indicate irrational behavior going on? (I'm not complaining)

Now, if only anything else would behave.... <^..^>

92 posted on 10/10/2014 7:01:35 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Does that indicate irrational behavior going on?

The market is what it is. There are parts of the market I believe mispriced (both directions) but you can't argue with the selling price. Good on you for making a smart play.

93 posted on 10/10/2014 9:23:34 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I vacation in Sierra Leone and all I got was this lousy T-shirt and a case of ebola.)
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