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The only way to beat our demographic crisis is to confront the Sexual Revolution
LifeSiteNews ^ | 9/19/14 | Don Feder

Posted on 09/22/2014 6:50:14 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Jack Hydrazine

Immigration, dude.


21 posted on 09/22/2014 7:36:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: LambSlave

Had a discussion recently with some people about some related topics, and sex.

One older man said he married his girl because it was the only way he would get to do certain things with her.

Someone else said that girls who would let men have their way with them were ostracized and girls valued their reputation back in those days.

There seemed a consensus that sex and marriage and family were all tied together back in the old days, part of a package deal. And both men and women behavior was oriented towards that. Society was different and looked down on girls getting pregnant without a husband.

Nowadays none of the above applies, so it’s not surprising that when it comes to sexual behavior, both men and women are out of control, compared to the old days.


22 posted on 09/22/2014 7:37:48 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: Organic Panic

A myth.

Mexico is currently at 2.2 fertility rate, Honduras at 3.0.

Many Muslim countries, such as Iran (1.9), now have fertility rates lower than ours.


23 posted on 09/22/2014 7:38:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; kabar
Population growth doesn't depend only on present overall fertility rate. It also depends on immigration and demographic age structure (as shown in those charts.)

Most immigrants are in, or entering into their fertile years--- that is,they are mostly infant through 30, with a heavy chunk in the late teens/early 20's category and the "mean" age for females under 18; whereas for native-born Americans, the mean age for the females is over 38 --- way past prime childbearing years.

So no matter what the overall USA fertility rate is NOW, we can confidently predict it is going to go up as the native-borns die off and the immigrants --- well, do the math. Particularly the multiplication.

Then they'll get into the birth control-abortion-and-buggery program, i.e. the American Way of Life --- and the whole growth sector will be Mormons, Old-Order Mennonites, and --- oh yes, Muslims. Whee.

24 posted on 09/22/2014 7:41:28 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: wagglebee
When was the last time you heard someone comment on a couple who are having their third, fourth, or fifth child - don't they know what causes that?

We have a responsibility to positively influence those around us and correct those attitudes that make having babies a negative thing.

One young neighbor of mine was questioning whether she should have another baby. She already had one really cute red-headed girl. I told her to go for it. Have another baby. She now has two of the cutest red-headed little girls I have ever seen.

My daughter graduated from a top-notch conservative college, the one that is always advertised. She and her friends are all having lots of babies. Most are on their third and a few have six each.

I call it "Mommy Mode."

We need to encourage those around us to see the beauty in more kids.

25 posted on 09/22/2014 7:41:59 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; kabar

That 10% was supposed to be ~100%. Typo.


26 posted on 09/22/2014 7:42:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Sanity is the adequate response of the mind to the real thing: adaequatio mentis ad rem.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
As the US fertility rate decreases the population will continue to rise. Is that correct?

According to the Census Bureau, we have a net gain of one person every 12 seconds. Do you challenge that estimate? Do you think the US has a declining population?

According to the 2000 census, this country had 281 million people. We now have 319 million. In less than 15 years we have added 38 million people to our population equal to the population of our most populous state, California.

27 posted on 09/22/2014 7:43:10 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wagglebee

US fertility rate has also been fairly stable since 1975.


28 posted on 09/22/2014 7:44:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: wagglebee
It's surprising that Feder seems never to have heard of the "demographic transition", i.e. what happens when nations move from a primarily agricultural economy to one that is primarily industrial.

In agricultural societies with relatively small governments the wisest thing for people to do is have lots of kids in order to have relatively cheap labor to help you farm your property, have children to take care of you in your old age, and have a lot of children so that if a few die off at an early age you still have a few left to farm.

In industrial societies with government managed (or mismanaged?) retirement programs children are a net financial drag. This is especially true if the government makes child labor illegal. Also, if childhood diseases have been put in check you don't need to have extra children around to last into your old age.

What people are finding out now, however, is that even with government managed health care and retirement plans, it still helps to have a younger person around to help older people navigate through all the paperwork in order to survive into old age. So I think people will want to try and have at least one child before they slide into dementia.

On the whole I think Feder has it backwards in a way. Birth control and abortion isn't causing people to have fewer children. Rather it is allowing them to have the fewer children they want because they don't need them anymore.

If the sexual revolution came without birth control and abortion then we would be seeing massive increases in population right now. With pretty much every part of the media telling us we have to be having great sex on a daily basis or else we are losers, if there were no birth control or abortion, there would probably be lots of orphanages or lots of people who started out having lots of "great" sex, but are now too tired from working three jobs just to keep all of their progeny fed.

29 posted on 09/22/2014 7:44:49 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Immigrants and their US born children drive 80% of our population growth. We take in 1.1 million PERMANENT LEGAL IMMIGRANTS ANNUALLY.


30 posted on 09/22/2014 7:45:11 AM PDT by kabar
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To: wagglebee

Keep a close eye on the nations in the southern hemisphere. Christian faith boom going on. The same nations that the west sent missionaries to, now is in turn are NOW sending the Christian missionaries to the west.


31 posted on 09/22/2014 7:48:16 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
One birth every 8 seconds

One death every 13 seconds

One international migrant (net) every 38 seconds

Net gain of one person every 12 seconds

So no matter what the overall USA fertility rate is NOW, we can confidently predict it is going to go up as the native-borns die off and the immigrants --- well, do the math. Particularly the multiplication.

Do you dispute the census data below?


32 posted on 09/22/2014 7:49:14 AM PDT by kabar
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To: utahagen

**All we can do is focus on our own lives and our individual salvation.**

And live chastely.


33 posted on 09/22/2014 7:51:26 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Sherman Logan
Prior to the late 19th century, woman would routinely have a large number of children to account for high childhood mortality rates. As childhood deaths declined, the need for more children did too. However, the rate should have stabilized in the early to mid 20th century, but has continued to drop.
34 posted on 09/22/2014 7:51:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Even more depressing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU


35 posted on 09/22/2014 7:57:37 AM PDT by pke
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To: wagglebee

The US fertility rate has bounced up and down some, but has been essentially unchanged since 1975.

A factor that is seldom discussed is that of WHO is having these kids. There is an inverse relationship in our society between number of children and what is generally considered success.

IOW, we are presently seeing reverse Darwinian selection. Superior reproduction by those who are less fit.


36 posted on 09/22/2014 8:01:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins most of the battles. Reality wins ALL the wars.)
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To: LambSlave

If men were marrying to “get sex” then isn’t that the same as the sexual hedonism the article is ostensibly calling out as part of the problem?


37 posted on 09/22/2014 8:05:26 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: wagglebee

To turn things around, the USA needs a turbulent, vicious economic depression of biblical proportions. Nothing else will work. During the last true depression, churches were filled and people had no one to rely on except for God and family. It ended the debauchery of the roaring 20s or whatever it was. People started to see the truth again and returned to God. They became humbled and turned their lives around. The USA was a Christian, God-centered nation until the 60s sexual revolution and then it all started downhill again.
Really, as a nation we have become lazy, apathetic, greedy and incredibly self-indulgent. Taking away all that God has given us is the only way to bring us back to Him. Truth.


38 posted on 09/22/2014 8:13:36 AM PDT by floridavoter2
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Adding a million legal immigrants a year plus illegal ones.


39 posted on 09/22/2014 8:23:27 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: kabar

America was still America and much more livable in 1970, our population was just fine, we were headed to becoming a more advance, larger Switzerland.

The last 100 million people destroyed us as a nation, and turned us into a grubby bus stop of overcrowded cities and big government as our communities were destroyed, and we became a dog eat dog place of concrete and greed and short term gains and big city politics devoured states.


40 posted on 09/22/2014 8:29:44 AM PDT by ansel12
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