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To: discostu
You didn't read the article did you. They address new star formation but take issue with it.

"ar formation is problematic at best.3 Gas is very resistant to being compressed. On earth, gas always fills its container. In space, there is no container. So gas expands indefinitely. If the gas could be forced into a sphere that is very small (in comparison to a nebula) such as the sun, then the gas would be held together by its own gravity. However, in a typical nebula, the gas pressure far exceeds the miniscule force of gravity. Secular astronomers now believe that external forces, such as a shockwave from an exploding star, are necessary in most cases to trigger star formation.4 Observations confirm that gas clouds expand; they do not appear to collapse into stars.

Even if we could compress the nebula sufficiently to the point that the force of gravity was strong enough to prevent the gas from expanding, other effects would kick in, thereby preventing the formation of a star. Clouds of gas always have a weak magnetic field, which would be concentrated if the cloud were compressed. This dramatically increases the field strength. The magnetic pressure would halt a shrinking cloud and drive it to re-expand.5 It’s a bit like trying to push the like poles of two magnets together.

Also, gas clouds always have a small amount of angular momentum; they rotate, if ever so slowly. But much like a skater who pulls her arms and legs in as she spins, a collapsing gas cloud would spin-up dramatically. The “centrifugal force” generated would tend to prevent any further collapse. Gas pressure, magnetic field strength, and angular momentum all work to prevent star formation. From a scientific perspective, naturalistic star formation appears unlikely at best. The evidence seems far more consistent with the biblical account—it appears that stars were supernaturally created only thousands of years ago. With blue stars scattered across the cosmos, our universe certainly “looks” young.

16 posted on 09/18/2014 3:06:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

None of which makes creationism make any more sense. Yes we’re still working on it, but we do know that 7 days and WHAMMO is just plain silly. A fine line to sell to pre-scientific people, but not the truth of how things came to be.


17 posted on 09/18/2014 3:08:54 PM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: DannyTN

Black holes blast your theory to smithereens.


18 posted on 09/18/2014 3:14:05 PM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: DannyTN

Do they even understand attractants in a vacuum? Or simple gravitation? Don’t for a single second think that this witch doctor at ICR and his regular cast of dimwits (throwing out ‘secular’ as if it somehow meant that makes the other guy obviously wrong)have the slightest notion of the rudiments of science. They should stick to biblical interpretation (the why question) and leave real science (the how question) to scientists.


21 posted on 09/18/2014 3:19:10 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: DannyTN

Ok, I’ll bite:

“such as a shockwave from an exploding star, are necessary in most cases to trigger star formation.”

So, how did the first star form again?

Don’t get me wrong — I believe in creation, but my faith doesn’t need to be propped up.


35 posted on 09/18/2014 4:50:33 PM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (...By reading this, you've collapsed my wave function. Thanks.)
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To: DannyTN

“On earth, gas always fills its container. In space, there is no container. So gas expands indefinitely.”

Wrong. You fail basic physical science.


51 posted on 09/18/2014 6:47:45 PM PDT by CodeToad (Romney is a raisin cookie looking for chocolate chip cookie votes.)
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