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Stiglitz vs. Krugman on Scotland
Townhall.com ^ | September 15, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 09/15/2014 7:10:55 AM PDT by Kaslin

New Fearmongering Tactics

In the waning moments UK prime Minister David Cameron warns Scots "Leave and You Go Forever".

Actually, the warning probably should be "Stay and you stay forever" because the UK will never allow such a vote again.

Regardless, no country should want to be under the thumb of another.

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TOPICS: United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alexsalmond; scotland; scotlandyet; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 09/15/2014 7:10:55 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Outlander 3.0


2 posted on 09/15/2014 7:13:54 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Kaslin

If the Scots leave, they will have to raise their own army, right?

Patrol their OWN borders, raise their OWN navy, see to their OWN national security, etc.???

Are the up for that?


3 posted on 09/15/2014 7:18:23 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kaslin

Are there any Scots left? Last time I visited I drove through the entire country and only met a few souls...


4 posted on 09/15/2014 7:22:06 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Why not? We’ve been on the front lines of every major war in the past 600 years.


5 posted on 09/15/2014 7:22:18 AM PDT by Tzfat
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To: SMARTY
If the Scots leave, they will have to raise their own army, right?

Patrol their OWN borders, raise their OWN navy, see to their OWN national security, etc.???

That's nothing compared to the fact that they won't be able to blame the English anymore if things don't go well for them after independence.

6 posted on 09/15/2014 7:22:49 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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Why? New Zealand doesn’t, not really.


7 posted on 09/15/2014 7:26:08 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

Nor Canada much.


8 posted on 09/15/2014 7:27:45 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: vbmoneyspender
The whole switcheroo will likely shake things up a lot more than just changing the flag. Just patrolling and securing the extensive coastal areas would be, in itself, a monumental undertaking for a country without a navy of their own.
9 posted on 09/15/2014 7:28:14 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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If the Scots leave, they will have to raise their own army, right? Patrol their OWN borders, raise their OWN navy, see to their OWN national security, etc.??? Are the up for that?

They'll do what Ireland did. Leave it up to the warlike English to defend them. Which is kind of amusing, since a big reason England conquered Wales, Ireland and Scotland was to put an end to raids into English territory.

10 posted on 09/15/2014 7:28:21 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

“warlike”? Is that like ‘safety net’?


11 posted on 09/15/2014 7:29:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: Kaslin
no country should want to be under the thumb of another

Do you know that, if "yes" wins, that the margin of victory will be from Nigerian "Scots" and Pakistani "Scots", who are polling 98% "yes"?

Do you think that Africans and Pakistanis who moved to the UK for the benefits should be able to dissolve a 400 year old European state?

12 posted on 09/15/2014 7:31:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Zhang Fei
“warlike”? Is that like ‘safety net’?

It's cynical as heck, but any state that seceded from the union would probably do something similar, assuming secession occurred peacefully. The only way for England to guarantee that an independent Scotland maintains a strong defense is to attack and bomb the heck out of it, and generally work to prevent it from leaving the union.

13 posted on 09/15/2014 7:34:02 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Jim Noble

What’s worse is that if “yes” wins the immigrants will be owed a debt, and what they want is many more immigrants and freedom from immigration laws and controls imposed by the UK.

Scotland may become its own country but its not going to be anything like Scotland for very much longer.


14 posted on 09/15/2014 7:36:49 AM PDT by Catphish
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"Patrol their OWN borders, raise their OWN navy, see to their OWN national security, etc.???"

All the Scots have to do defeat an enemy is to paint their faces blue and moon their foes. Right?

Actually an interesting question. Continue in NATO with England or declare neutrality? I have read nothing on detail plans if the independence movement wins the vote.

15 posted on 09/15/2014 7:36:53 AM PDT by buckalfa (Long time caller --- first time listener.)
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To: Jim Noble
Do you know that, if "yes" wins, that the margin of victory will be from Nigerian "Scots" and Pakistani "Scots", who are polling 98% "yes"? Do you think that Africans and Pakistanis who moved to the UK for the benefits should be able to dissolve a 400 year old European state?

Muslims are 1% of Scotland's population. Nigerians (some of whom are Muslims) are less than 1%. If they represent the margin of victory, then it will have been a very close referendum. I blame Tony Blair, who opened the floodgates during his tenure. To the extent England blames a party for Scottish independence, it really ought to be Labour.

16 posted on 09/15/2014 7:37:44 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Where do you get those statistics? I was in Edinburgh and it doesn’t seem like that is the composition of the population at all. . .


17 posted on 09/15/2014 7:43:23 AM PDT by Catphish
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Since the Scots invented the world it seems only right they should have a country in it.


18 posted on 09/15/2014 7:44:10 AM PDT by bkepley
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19 posted on 09/15/2014 7:50:30 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Catphish
Where do you get those statistics? I was in Edinburgh and it doesn’t seem like that is the composition of the population at all. . .

Wikipedia. Similarly, NYC doesn't represent NY's population, any more than Memphis represents TN's population or Atlanta represents GA's population.

20 posted on 09/15/2014 7:52:41 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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