Posted on 09/11/2014 1:50:00 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
President BarackObama touted American leadership on several fronts during his primetime speech Wednesday, including with Russia.
In a major reversal, Obama ordered the United States into a broad military campaign to “degrade and ultimately destroy” militants in two volatile Middle East nations, authorizing airstrikes inside Syria for the first time, as well as an expansion of strikes in Iraq.
“It is America that has rallied the world against Russian aggression, and in support of the Ukrainian peoples’ right to determine their own destiny,” Obama said in a speech that was primarily about combatting the Islamic State.
But several weeks ago, Obama told lawmakers that Crimea – the Ukrainian territory that Russia claims to have annexed, is “gone,” said Rep. Buck McKeon, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee.
“I was in a meeting in the White House a few weeks ago, and the president was giving us a synopsis of the problems around the world, and I said, ‘You didn’t mention Crimea. Is that just gone?” McKeon (R-Calif.) said during remarks Thursday at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, the Washington Examiner reported.
“Yeah, that’s gone,” Obama responded, according to McKeon.
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How's that for flexibility?
It is no longer Ukraine or the USA's business. Indeed, Ukraine has started passport control on the border with Crimea, indicating tacit acceptance that the territory is now part of the Russian Federation.
I'm tired of hearing about this crap.
Obama added that he was cool with Sudetenland too.
I wonder how many people here would support a US state (say Texas) in a hypothetical secession effort?
Sorry that you were forced to read and post on this thread.
I mean in the media in general. Our media is so hopelessly biased against Russia they would swear up is down and black is write if it were perceived to somehow hurt Putin.
How hard is it to understand that Russia is entitled to act in the interest of Russians? They are not Communists anymore. We have no reason to get into fights with them other than the irrational US desire to have a teenage male-organ-measuring-contest.
We should instead realize that our cultures have more in common than different and start working with them to counter the Islamist threat that is common to both of our nations.
The Soviets “gave” the Crimea to the Ukraine during the Cold War under Nikita Khrushchev. They never figured there would be any problem since the Ukraine was so tight a part of the old USSR.
Then the USSR fell apart.
But the Russians maintained their large naval base there in the Crimea, which gives them access to the Med. That base was never going to be given up by Russia. When the opportunity came with this Ukrainian crisis...they promptly took the Crimea back.
Short of an all out war with Russia...I do not believe we or NATO could ever get it back at this stage.
If we wanted to try and keep it from falling into Russian hands...we would had to have rushed large numbers of ships and aircraft and troops into the area the minute the Ukraine crisis in Kiev heated up and the pro-Russian president there was run out of time. Once that happened, the Russian grab of the Crimea was inevitable.
But even if we had...that would have immediately sparked a war with Russia because they would have seen it as a direct threat to their large Naval base in the Crimea in any case.
Russian citizens within Russia - Yes.
"Russian-speakers" within other countries - No.
Easy concept.
You are going to keep hearing about this whether you like it or not because it’s going to be a major issue in upcoming elections for years to come. Conservative Republicans will keep raising the issue of how Obama’s cowardly weakness has encourages Neo-Soviet Russia’s revanchist aggression. Liberal Democrats will defend Obama’s record of failure and capitulation.
The American culture has a lot in common with the people of Ukraine. Ukraine sent troops to Iraq to help us fight jihadists. Ukrainians and Americans are working together to fight the islamist and Russian threats to both our nations.
Crimea River?
Putin has MODERNIZED Russia’s military (S-400 and Topol, for starters). It’s best not to test him.
So I’m with the president. Crimea is a DONE DEAL for now, and will remain that way, until we at least DOUBLE our military spending, which means it is a done deal.
“I wonder how many people here would support a US state (say Texas) in a hypothetical secession effort?”
Certainly me and most of my Texans. I expect HUGE MAJORITIES in states like Oklahoma, Kansas, etc. What’s the point of holding the country together when it just disintegrates?
In any case, not going to happen, at least for a few years.
“How hard is it to understand that Russia is entitled to act in the interest of Russians? They are not Communists anymore.”n
Prepare for INCOMING!!!
You will be called EVERY NAME IN THE BOOK, by the Obama sycophants here that are really trolls trying to help the president distract the country from Obamacare and an OPEN southern border.
Just see what they say - they act as if we have a chance of beating the BRAND NEW Russian weapons, universally consider the best in the world.
Could the Texicans deport all the Liberal Socialists and drunk Rat prosecutors in Austin from their new sovereign nation?
When will the morons learn that ya “Don’t mess with Texas”.
Crimea will be a little uncomfortable for a while, it will take a few months to build a bridge and first class roadway, plus augment the infrastructure for more potable water, power ect. but they'll be fine, and they are not a soft people.
I’m glad to hear that you Obama and Putin are all on the same page.
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