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To: cuban leaf
Trauma can involve post hospitalization inpatient rehab. Massive shoulder sugery is not trauma.Trauma is femur fracture, head injury, spinal trauma, etc. Trauma is a injury that affects 2 or more body systems.

The problem is, a lot of people think the waythat you do until they get an expensive diagnosis, like cancer. Then, all of a sudden, they cry big baby tears, and want the hospital to find a solution to their problem.

It is bad enough that hospitals are now the “social net” for societies ills. I remember working in the 1980s. We discharged patients to the streets, we felt that patients were responsible for their own situation post discharge.

Now, hospitals have to find housing for their patients, arrange transportation and interpreters, assist in post hospital financial planning for patients, be a cop to prevent them from getting admitted to the hospital in 30 days.. I even had a patient ask me to call his landlord to complain about lice in his rental. I basically told him that the lice in his apartment was not the landlords responsibility, but his.He had to clean and do laundry to get rid of them. The patient looked upset, and thought someone else had to do his work for him.

So, when I hear someone say they do not have health insurance by choice, I also do not want those people crying big baby tears to me. Be responsible for your decision. Be willing to lose your home if you have a catastrophic illness. No one else should have to pay for it.

19 posted on 09/09/2014 10:45:13 AM PDT by kaila
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To: kaila

The problem is, a lot of people think the waythat you do until they get an expensive diagnosis, like cancer. Then, all of a sudden, they cry big baby tears, and want the hospital to find a solution to their problem.


Yes, a lot of people do. A lot of people can’t drive. A lot of people smoke too much. A lot of people are alcoholics. A lot of people do a lot of things. Maybe if we quit enabling them they wouldn’t. But, more importantly, just because they do, it doesn’t mean I will. We are all unique. I’ve thought LONG AND HARD about this. It would be the height of hypocracy for me to do such a thing.

I call it “tough love”. Actions need to have consequences.

And I very much see this life as a very “real” video game. It is, after all, almost all empty space. It is not as real as the true reality of the afterlife would be. It simply makes no sense to prolong the “game” as long as possibe unless you don’t think you will make it to the “real” world.


21 posted on 09/09/2014 10:51:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: kaila
It is bad enough that hospitals are now the “social net” for societies ills. I remember working in the 1980s. We discharged patients to the streets, we felt that patients were responsible for their own situation post discharge.

We need to return to that.

Now, hospitals have to find housing for their patients, arrange transportation and interpreters, assist in post hospital financial planning for patients, be a cop to prevent them from getting admitted to the hospital in 30 days..

And there is a major part of the problem.

23 posted on 09/09/2014 10:53:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: kaila

So, when I hear someone say they do not have health insurance by choice, I also do not want those people crying big baby tears to me. Be responsible for your decision. Be willing to lose your home if you have a catastrophic illness. No one else should have to pay for it.


Not my home. My life. Wy wife needs a place to live.

We’re living the “little house on the prarie” paradigm. But with satellite internet. Lots of good medical advice there. It’s where I found out that what my doctor diagnosed as a broken toe was really gout. ;-)


25 posted on 09/09/2014 10:59:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: kaila; cuban leaf
So, when I hear someone say they do not have health insurance by choice, I also do not want those people crying big baby tears to me. Be responsible for your decision. Be willing to lose your home if you have a catastrophic illness. No one else should have to pay for it.

I don't have health insurance either, mainly because of the cost, but also because I believe that nothing in the Constitution authorizes this Bolshevist government to compel me to purchase a product.

I don't know if it qualifies as trauma or not, but one night in early April I went to sleep one night and woke up two days later in the hospital, having had for some unknown reason, a series grand mal seizures.

Since I was unconscious I was unable to authorize the hospital to treat me. My family authorized the treatment. I now have a hospital bill of about $26,000.00 plus doctor bills of about $6,000.00. I filled out a HOSPITAL financial aid form from (not from the government) and have begun to make payments on the debt. This particular hospital will accept partial payments. It may take the rest of my life to pay it off.

I am not complaining. I'm just telling you what happened. The federal government has no authority to compel me to purchase a product. John Roberts, et al can go to Hell.

On humorous thing happened in the hospital, though, which I don't remember, but was told to me by family members who were in my room when it happened.

They said the doctor came into the room and began to ask me questions such as what year is it, what city am I in, etc. I don't remember any of this, but my family reported that I said it was 1996, and that I was in Belleville, IL (not). Then the doctor asked me who was President and I reportedly replied, "That dammed communist, Barack Obama."

So, at least I got one thing right.

Cordially,

37 posted on 09/10/2014 11:09:58 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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