[quimby]

So your philosphy is abandone the battlefield ?

I choose to stand and fight.

[SoConPubbie]

I choose to stand and fight.

You choose to sacrifice your conservative principles (if you had any) to support someone who is immoral.

Great decision on your part!

[ought-six]

No, it’s called a strategic retreat. California ceased to be something worth fighting and dying for. California gave up, so I saw no reason to go down with the ship.

The United States, however, as it was founded, and as it was meant to be, and was, IS worth fighting and dying for. And for her I will stand and fight, though it be a Last Stand.