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To: Theoria; ansel12
'We must also secure our own borders and immigration policy from ISIS infiltration. Our border is porous, and the administration, rather than acting to protect it, instead ponders unconstitutional executive action, legalizing millions of illegal immigrants.

Our immigration system, especially the administration of student visas, requires a full-scale examination. Recently, it was estimated that as many as 6,000 possibly dangerous foreign students are unaccounted for. This is inexcusable over a decade after we were attacked on 9/11 by hijackers including one Saudi student who overstayed his student visa.'


Yea, but as Ansel12 pointed out up-thread, Rand wants to have it both ways.

First he comes out with his own Amnesty plan where he grants amnesty to 2 million illegal invaders each and every year based on the flawed idea that the Congress can objectively "certify" that the border is secure (Without a fence mind you) and now he tries and spout control the border nonsense.

He can't have it both ways.
16 posted on 09/04/2014 1:29:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie
Of course not. He is a Republican, a member of one of the parties of Amnesty. He simply found a talking point at will bring it up.

As I have noted before, RP, is good at attacking. That is why he will be a viable attack dog against Hillary, as he is doing now.

18 posted on 09/04/2014 1:32:47 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: SoConPubbie
based on the flawed idea that the Congress can objectively "certify" that the border is secure (Without a fence mind you) and now he tries and spout control the border nonsense.

I am not saying that I agree with his plan but you have mischaracterized it.

From what I have read, the border patrol and an inspector general would produce a report determining if it was secure and then congress would vote on whether they agreed. If the boreder patrol and the IG didn't think the border was secure they wouldn't certify that it was. If a congressman didn't feel the border was secure due to the fact that there was no fence he could vote that he didn't agree with the report. Then this same report and same congressional vote would be required EVERY YEAR for several years as the existing illegals were processed.

Also, I couldn't find the 2 million number that you used.

Again, I don't think his idea is a good one and I would not support it but it isn't as bad as Gov. Pence's plan or Paul Ryan's plan or the Gang of Eight's plan. In fact, I don't know of a national politician who has laid out a detailed plan that is more conservative than Paul's. If you have seen one please enlighten me. In Paul's plan illegals would need to get in line with every other person on the globe to apply for citizenship. They would just be given permission to live here while they were waiting.

Do you have any evidence that Paul is against a fence or border security?

35 posted on 09/04/2014 2:25:07 PM PDT by nitzy
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