In other words ... the Newsers can't claim that St. Swisher of Sweets has a clean record ... so they peed all over themselves trying to dodge the question.
In other words ... the Newsers can't claim that St. Swisher of Sweets has a clean record ... so they peed all over themselves trying to dodge the question.
Were his "minor" offenses plea-bargained down from a juvenile equivalent Class A or B? - and just what is the "juvenile equivalent? Regular As and Bs involve murder, so maybe as a teen, you only murder a little bit?
It seems to me that are setting up a Straw Man argument.
Convicted? No, not convicted. Just as the surviving Boston bombing brother has not been convicted of a felony in that crime. And if that Boston bomber dies before his trial is over, he will die never having been convicted of a felony.
He had no serious felony convictions...yet
The records they are reporting on would only be since his 18th birthday, I suspect.
keyword is convictions . .
Turn over the thug’s entire record: school disciplinary actions/suspensions, contacts with law enforcement or the court system, investigations that include his name, arrests, drug & alcohol test results, prosecuted and dismissed charges, plea bargains, court/trial records, convictions, and sentences for all felonies and misdemeanors.
The whole enchilada, baby.
Did Charles Johnson who sued get to actually look at his record or was just told by some hack?
But she deliberately fails to address if he had any Class C Felonies, Class D Felonies, Class A, Class B or Class C Misdemeanors. Which under Missouri Criminal Laws are very significant crimes punishable by very significant sentences - as the below excerpted outline from missouri-criminal-defense.com makes quite clear: The maximum penalties for each offense are as follows: According to Missouri Criminal Laws (Section 557), Offenses are broken down and classified into the following categories, ranked from most serious to less serious:
Class
Penalties
Example Charges
Class A Felony
Maximum Penalty: Death, life imprisonment, imprisonment for 10-30 years.
Examples of Class A felonies include second degree murder, first degree robbery.
Class B Felony
Maximum Penalty: imprisonment for 5 to 15 years.
Examples of Class B felonies include voluntary manslaughter, 2nd degree robbery, 1st degree burglary.
Class C Felony
Maximum Penalty: imprisonment for up to 7 years, fines up to $5000.
Examples of Class C felonies include involuntary manslaughter, Stealing (valued $500-$25000) and second degree assault.
Class D Felony
Maximum Penalty: imprisonment for up to 4 years & Fine up to $5000, or twice the amount of the offender's gain, up to $20,000.
Examples of Class D felonies include passing a bad check / fraud, other forms of fraud.
Class A Misdemeanor
Maximum Penalty: up to 1 year in jail, and a fine of up to $1000.
Examples of class A misdemeanors include fraud / fraudulent use of a credit card / device, if the value is less that $150, passing bad checks under $500, and 3rd degree assault.
Class B Misdemeanor
Maximum Penalty: From 30 days up to six months in jail, and a fine of up to $500.
Examples of Class B misdemeanors include a First (1st) offense DWI, and first degree trespass.
Class C Misdemeanor
Maximum Penalty: up to 15 days in jail, and a fine of up to $300.
Examples are driving with excessive blood alcohol content, 1st offense.
The guy who sued for the records stated in his complaint that there were two sources, a federal and a local LEO, who said that there was a second degree murder in his juvey records.
He didn’t say that it was a “conviction.”
And how is the lawyer for the family court allowed to disclose whether Brown had convictions or not prior to Brown’s records being unsealed? Isn’t she in violation of the law by speaking about what is in them prior to unsealing?
How about any not so serious (yeah, whatever) types of felonies and was he ever listed as a suspect?
Now, now, you know the gentle giant was a square dance fan and was merely showing the store owner how to do-si-do and swing your partner.
Thank you, Toon, for the parsing lessons ... how about serious felony charges pled down to non-serious felonies?
What is the story between the lines?
So his felony convictions were still in court.
No convictions? Big deal. He was a thief and assaulted a cop.
From the Post Dispatch: “The parents of Michael Brown were represented at the hearing by their attorney, Anthony D. Gray. Although he did not speak in the hearing, outside the courtroom he blasted the Post-Dispatch and Johnson for requesting the juvenile files.”
So, Brown’s family sent an attorney, and the gubermint vigorously opposed release of a dead adult’s juvenile records, because there was nothing there.
Article only says that while a juvenile, Brown had never been “charged as an adult”, meaning with 1st or 2nd degree murder. This leaves a bit of latitude. I doubt we will ever know.
Something I haven’t seen anything on, is whether Officer Wilson had ever encountered Brown or Johnson before.
My thoughts were similar. Mentions nothing of arrests or accusations... says convictions.
the key here is the wording of the answer.
no serious convictions.
if he had a plea deal for the 2nd degree murder it could have been something that was plea-bargained down to a lesser charge.
No one's said he'd been convicted, they've said he's been suspected in a 21nd degreee murder case.