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Ukraine dispatch: Burnt out tanks and ashes of APCs on journey through no-man's land
The Telegraph ^ | 1:00PM BST 02 Sep 2014 | Roland Oliphant

Posted on 09/02/2014 8:48:04 AM PDT by FBD

In the corridors of no-mans land between the advancing and retreating armies, writes Roland Oliphant, the evidence of a desperate, panicked, rapid retreat can be found everywhere...

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia; ukraine
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Some incredible photos of the burned out in a convoy that came under attack by Russian forces.
1 posted on 09/02/2014 8:48:04 AM PDT by FBD
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To: FBD

^burned out vehicles^


2 posted on 09/02/2014 8:50:10 AM PDT by FBD
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Now that Obama has removed any future deployment of the US Marines and the US Army, (Obamacode: “boots on the ground”), from the Russian and Militant Muslim Theaters of War, both Russia and the Militant Muslims know that they are assured of quickly obtaining ground control of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Both the Russians and the Militant Muslims know that their rapid ground advances will end once the Impeachment Proceedings begin on Obama.

Russia needs to have land and Naval control of the north shore of the Black Sea and western Turkey in order to have unfettered access from its only warm water Naval port in Crimea to the Mediterranean Sea.

With the Militant Muslims, (al Qadea, al Sharia, Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, ISIS, etc., etc., etc.), controlling the land transport of much of the World’s Oil, and Russia’s Navy controlling the Eastern Mediterranean shipment of Oil, Israel would have no choice but to become a neutral Nation - - - the “Switzerland” of the Middle East.

The Democrat control of the US Senate and Administration, has resulted in a strategy of Domestic Financial weakness, betrayal to America’s Allies, and exponentially emboldened Military planners in Russia and the Muslim Militant community.

Will Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner continue to financially support the Obama-Reid-Jarrett Regime Strategy of ceding control of the Eastern Mediteranian/Middle East to the Russians and Militant Muslims?


3 posted on 09/02/2014 8:51:30 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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For the zillionth time, there don’t have to be “Russian” forces. If Russia wanted those tanks burned out, they can deploy their air force and do it. That’s what an air force is for. There is no need for them to risk large numbers of troops and casualties. There is no “invasion”. There is a funded and supported uprising.

Those tanks were burned out by rebel forces, armed by Russia, and by the way, those tanks were provided to the Kiev forces by Russia. They are just generating future arms sales, like the US is doing bombing ISIS US-provided equipment.

That’s what an air force does. It allows influence with no or low casualty risk. If Russia wanted Kiev forces wiped out, they’d be wiped out. The rebels will get that done, but slower.


4 posted on 09/02/2014 9:03:11 AM PDT by Owen
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Since you are posting that everywhere, won’t you at least explain what you mean about Obama pulling the Army and Marines out of the Russian “theaters of war”?


5 posted on 09/02/2014 9:14:40 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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Okay, Owen, then why do tanks have anti-tank rounds if destroying tanks is “what an air force is for” as you write?


6 posted on 09/02/2014 9:15:28 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Owen

NATO confirms that Russian forces are in Ukraine.


7 posted on 09/02/2014 9:17:28 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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How is the Russian navy going to control the eastern Med with a rusting fleet made up overwhelmingly of obsolete ships from the 70’s and 80’s?


8 posted on 09/02/2014 9:23:14 AM PDT by Natufian (t)
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Well this certainly runs counter to the numerous reports that Ukraine troops have been rolling up the Russians and rebels in all quarters.

I suspect the White House has been driving the false stories as the real truth is less convenient.


9 posted on 09/02/2014 9:23:39 AM PDT by keat
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There are several photos of a burned out mini-bus.

Yeah, if shooting starts, I’m bailing outta that, too.


10 posted on 09/02/2014 9:28:57 AM PDT by Noamie
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Baghdad Bob has moved to Kiev. I have almost believed there are Russian troops in Ukraine just a few days earlier. But I don’t believe a thing from them again after the concentration of bullcrap is now way above toxic level.
If not for a free press still present there, it could be another destroyed column of ‘Russian invaders’. Just like everytime Ukrainian army or ‘volunteers’ hit a civilian target it is ‘rebels who did it to make army look bad’.


11 posted on 09/02/2014 9:36:21 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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Baghdad Bob has moved to Kiev.

It does seem that telling the straight truth is optional in the Ukraine as well as Russia. I wonder if this is true in all things over there?

12 posted on 09/02/2014 9:43:32 AM PDT by keat
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Yeah, but these Rooskies are just JV guys.


13 posted on 09/02/2014 10:19:21 AM PDT by wdk535
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Note the burnt-out T-72 in the pics, that we have been told endlessly that the Kiev troops didn’t have??


14 posted on 09/02/2014 10:59:26 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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Is that a VW Bus?

15 posted on 09/02/2014 11:03:05 AM PDT by McGruff (You can lead a human to knowledge but you can't make him think)
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That’s a Russian Army Combat Vacation RV, reversed engineered from the US Army’s EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.


16 posted on 09/02/2014 11:12:23 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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Those Russian Ships are more than a match for Obama’s “turn tail and run” US Navy.

B. Hussein Obama has proven his flexibility toward Russia in the events of Crimea and Ukraine.

B. Hussein Obama will do nothing to provoke Putin, PERIOD.


17 posted on 09/02/2014 12:50:32 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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” - - - Now that Obama has removed any future deployment of the US Marines and the US Army, (Obamacode: “boots on the ground”), from the Russian and Militant Muslim Theaters of War, both Russia and the Militant Muslims know that they are assured of quickly obtaining ground control of the Eastern Mediterranean. - - - “

I had inadvertently omitted “any future deployment of” from earlier postings. Thank you for asking for a clarification.

B. Hussein Obama is not “cautious,” he is TERRIFIED of losing to Russia or Muslim Militants, and thus is committed to turn tail and run from the sounds of the guns.

Benghazi, 2012 is still the working model for Obama the Commander in Chief of the World’s most powerful Military Organization.


18 posted on 09/02/2014 1:00:23 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Jeez, Italy could probably put them on the sea bed.


19 posted on 09/02/2014 1:00:25 PM PDT by Natufian (t)
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Yup, and it took Obama less that 6 years to “FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.”

Well, to be fair, Obama could not have done it without the always generous funding by Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner.


20 posted on 09/02/2014 1:31:38 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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