Basically if I were to have titled it, I would call it
- "Sharia" Is Not The "SAME FAITH", and "THE PEACEFUL MAJORITY WERE IRRELEVANT !"
But what's more defining is what several news source stories cut out in their version of the even.
Here are links to the reports that I'm referring to.
- Unusual Answer from Panelist Receives Standing Ovation at Benghazi Coalition Meeting
This is the Discussion on Islam vs. Radical Islam Many Americans Have Been Waiting To Hear
Heritage Foundation Panelist on Radical Islam
Below is MY TRANSCRIPT of the 9 minutes and 17 seconds of video of the event. (I'm a retired air traffic controller/supervisor and I have done official transcripts before.)
Full Context: Benghazi Accountability Coalition Event
Full Context: Benghazi Accountability Coalition Event ( 9:17 )
- Published on Jun 17, 2014 by The Heritage Foundation
The exchange between questioner Saba Ahmed and a panel at a June 16, 2014, event, "Benghazi: The Difference It Makes Is Accountability!"
My name is Saba Ahmed.
I'm a Law Student at American University.
I am here to ask you a simple question.
I know that we portray Islam and all Muslims as bad, but there is 1.8 billion Muslims followers of Islam.
We have 8 million plus Muslim Americans in this country, and I don't see them represented here.
But my question is
- how can we fight an ideological war with weapons?
How can we ever end this war?
How can you ever win this thing if you don't address it ideologically?
CHRIS PLANTE: Frank.
FRANK GAFFNEY: Well, um, I'm glad to see you're representing Muslims in this company.
Uh, I don't want to speak for anybody else, but I think I can say safely that there isn't anybody on this panel that thinks that all Muslims are the problem.
I certainly don't.
What we have been trying to help people to understand is the ideology, to use your tern, the doctrine, if you will, uh the program, agenda.
I don't know what best way to describe what "Sharia" is.
But that's the default line, I think, between Muslims who are … decidedly the problem,
- because they believe it is "Allah's will", God's will, to impose that will on everybody else, Muslim and non-Muslim, alike, on one hand.
- They don't even know what it's about,
don't speak Arabic,
aren't imbued with the traditions of the faith as out of Saudi Arabia, for example.
But what makes these policy things so important it seems to me, and why it is imperative that we understand it ...
It's not just that we don't know that we're fighting
- an "ideological war" against people who ARE ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED OF THE SUPREMACY OF THEIR IDEOLOGY
This is why I come back to this idea of legitimating and engaging and funding and arming the Muslim Brotherhood.
These are exponents of "Sharia".
It is part of their agenda, very explicitly, to impose it, as I say, on everyone else.
So I thank you for the question and I think we absolutely do need to deal with it as an ideologically war, at least in part or at least understand the the ideology that is driving THE VIOLENT JIHAD ON THE ONE HAND,
AND EVERY BIT AS IMPORTANTLY WHAT THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CALLS THE "CIVILIZATION JIHAD" ON THE OTHER.
Many in the government, if they're thinking about this at all, are focused on the sort of dangling, shiny object, dangerous as it is, of "VIOLENT JIHAD".
But they're missing ENTIRELY, that other piece that I talked about in connection with Huma Abedin and others,
which is … the SUBVERSION, the not-so-much non-violent form of Jihad, as the PRE-VIOLENT FORM OF JIHAD, with which they hope ultimately to take us down just as surely as the others who embrace VIOLENT JIHAD seem to.
But at the end of the day, it is something that brings them together,
- whether it is ISSI,
whether it is the Taliban,
whether it's Al Qaida,
whether it's the Muslim Brotherhood,
whether it's dozens of others,
And we DO have to get THAT straight.
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Great ,,,
Crowd: ( applause) [Video time ( 4:06 )]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Great question.
I am so glad you're here.
And I am so glad you brought that up, because this …, because it gives us an opportunity to answer.
What I find so amazing is, since the beginning of this panel, which we are here about Benghazi attack against our people; not one person mentioned
- Muslims,
we are here against Islam,
or we're launching war against Muslims.
- HOW 4 AMERICANS DIED,
and WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
We are NOT here to bash Muslims.
YOU were the one who brought up the issue about 'most Muslims', NOT US.
And since you brought it up, allow me to elaborate with my answer.
There are 1.2 BILLION Muslims in the world today.
OF COURSE NOT ALL of them are radicals.
The majority of them are peaceful people.
The radicals are estimated to be between 15 to 25% according to ALL intelligence services around the world.
That leaves 75% of them, ma … a peaceful people.
But when you look at 15 to 25% of the world's Muslim population,
- you're looking at 180 million to 300 million people DEDICATED TO THE DESTRUCTION OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
So why should we worry about the radical, 15 to 25%?
- BECAUSE IT IS THE RADICALS THAT KILL.
BECAUSE IT IS THE RADICALS THAT BEHEAD AND MASSACRE.
When you look throughout history, when you look at all the lessons of history,
- most Germans were peaceful.
And as a result, 60 million people died, almost ah, … 14 million in concentration camps. 6 million were Jews.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
When you look at Russia, most Russians were peaceful as well.
Yet the Russians were able to kill 20 million people.
The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
When you look at China for example, most Chinese were peaceful as well.
Yet the Chinese were able to kill 70 million people.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
When you look at Japan prior to World War II, most Japanese were peaceful as well.
Yet, Japan was able to butcher its way across Southeast Asia, killing 12 million people, mostly killed with bayonets and shovels.
The peaceful majority were IRRELEVANT.
On September 11th in the United States, we had 2.3 MILLION Arab Muslims living in the United States.
It took 19 hijackers,
- 19 radicals,
- to bring America down to its knees,
destroy the World Trade Center,
attack the Pentagon, and … and kill almost 3000 Americans that day.
SO FOR ALL OUR POWERS OF REASON, and US TALKING ABOUT moderate and peaceful Muslims, I'm glad you're here.
But WHERE ARE THE OTHERS SPEAKING OUT?
AND SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MUSLIM REPRESENTATIVE …
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIE: ( speaking to the large crowd and waving her hands down to lower the noise) Save your applause until the end.
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: Thank you.
Crowd: ( overwhelming applause)
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: (Laughing) Thank you.
AND SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MUSLIM REPRESENTATIVE IN HERE, YOU TOOK THE LIME LIGHT INSTEAD OF SPEAKING ABOUT
- WHY our government …
- You're an American?
[Ahmed responded yes.]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: You're an American Citizen?
[Ahmed responded yes.]
BRIGITTE GABRIEL: So, as an American citizen, you sat in this room, and INSTEAD of standing up as saying a question,
or asking something about our 4 Americans that died and what our government is doing to correct the problem,
YOU STOOD THERE TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT PEACEFUL, MODERATE MUSLIMS.
I wish you brought 10 with you TO QUESTION THEM ABOUT WHAT, HOW WE CAN HELP OUT GOVERNMENT RESPONSIBLE It is time
- we take political correctness and THROW IT IN THE GARBAGE CAN WHERE IT BELONGS,
and STOP CALLING IT "SAME FAITH" .
[Video time ( 8:00 )]
Crowd: ( Shouts of "Yeah" and overwhelming applause)
CHRIS PLANTE: And they'll be refreshments afterwards.
Crowd: ( Laughter and overwhelming applause)
CHRIS PLANTE: (to Clare Lopez) Ah, did you want to respond to the ah … ?
CLARE LOPEZ: (Shaking her head no) I don't want to.
CHRIS PLANTE: You think, ah (laughing) you think that … another time .
CLARE LOPEZ: (Shaking her head no) I can't follow that.
CHRIS PLANTE: ( Laughing) ( Pointing to Saba Ahmed) You had a follow-up that you'd ah …
I'd uh …
Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.
[Video time ( 8:31 )] (Video of part of the large crowd and Saba Ahmed asking question)
SABA AHMED: … A comment.
Thank you for your responses.
And I do really hope that other Muslims will start showing up at these conservative forums.
But, you know, as a peaceful … ah, American Muslim I would like to think that I'm not that irrelevant.
I would like, I'm just as much an American and Im very deeply saddened about the lives that were lost in Libya.
And I hope that we will find justice for them and their families and …
But I don't think that this war can ever be won BY JUST THE MILITARY.
You have to address the war … You have to bring the Muslims to the table TO ADDRESS THIS.
CHRIS PLANTE: I think that … I think everyone agrees that it can't be won JUST by the military, and I that everyone has said that.
You, … Can you tell me WHO the head of the uh, Muslim Peace Movement IS?
SABA AHMED: Huh, I guess that's me right now, sir. (she's smiling)
Thank you.
CHRIS PLANTE: Uh, yeah, well uh … (smiling)
Thank you.
(Crowd clapping)
END of video.