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More Workers Are Claiming ‘Wage Theft’(working for free)
NYT ^ | 8/31/2014 | NYT

Posted on 09/01/2014 9:43:16 AM PDT by Dallas59

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To: Balding_Eagle; TBP; Cowboy Bob; DuncanWaring; Sherman Logan
Pay them. Then deport them.

This is happening to illegals and legals...

The greedy unscrupulous employers like McWhopper and FedEx are no different than any other employers...

BTW, the he bottom line is your govenrment has no intention of deporting anyone. Because those corrupt greedy employers by the thousands bankroll the corrupt politicians and their campaigns to keep their illegal low wage workers flowing in.

They have no intention of killing off their low wage golden goose.

All that said, I can guarantee you there are tens of thousands of independent contractors who are being ripped off and taken advantage of as a matter of routine. Especially those who once did work as employees for the same employers they're now working as independent contractors for.

21 posted on 09/01/2014 10:35:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dallas59

I worked at a car wash one summer while in college. We had to clock out when there were no cars to wash, but if we left while clocked out we would be fired.


22 posted on 09/01/2014 10:43:32 AM PDT by gop4lyf (Claire Wolfe called. She said the Awkward Phase is over.)
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To: Mastador1

Workers are getting screwed all around (white collar, blue collar, legal or illegal); we’ve regressed in our standard of living. Neither party will fix this.


23 posted on 09/01/2014 10:46:15 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: dragnet2

If there were no illegals the companies would be forced to pay proper wages to their workers. The illegals distort the job market.


24 posted on 09/01/2014 11:02:32 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: wiggen
The illegals distort the job market.

Yes, but the American people are too uninformed to know this.

25 posted on 09/01/2014 11:07:20 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: wiggen

Further, if the illegals are “amnestied”, they will then be able to demand full-retail wage, which will then create demand for another wave of illegal, half-price workers.


26 posted on 09/01/2014 11:09:29 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rktman
If I could go back and recoup all the unpaid hours I worked over the years I could retire. Oh, wait. I already did retire. Dang!

If I could go back and recoup all the unpaid hours I worked over the years I could retire. Oh, wait. I already did retire. Dang! (could not have said it better myself).

27 posted on 09/01/2014 11:12:27 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
And prosecute the thieves that shorted the pay unlawfully.

Yup...way overlooked aspect of this issue...

Even if you are here legally, there is a lot of abuse...

Stealing a man's wage is just like putting a gun to his head and robbing them...

Lot's and lot's of people feel they have no option but to work or lose their job...

28 posted on 09/01/2014 11:16:09 AM PDT by Popman (Jesus Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: DuncanWaring

of course. Theres an article on Yahoo. http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Obama-AFL-CIO-immigration-agenda/2014/09/01/id/591903/

AFL-CIO backs them as well. One might ask why do they want their members to be screwed over? They only see 8 million new members and to hell with everyone else.


29 posted on 09/01/2014 11:17:17 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Popman
I just want to take away the incentives for hiring illegals.

/johnny

30 posted on 09/01/2014 11:17:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

And we wonder why all the companies make everything in China?


31 posted on 09/01/2014 11:29:15 AM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules
The law should be enforced. Hire an illegal, go to jail.

/johnny

32 posted on 09/01/2014 11:30:58 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Dallas59

Is not an Illegal Alien by definition, STEALING WAGES FROM AMERICANS if they WORK???


33 posted on 09/01/2014 11:32:31 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Dallas59

It happens to me regularly. I’m a salaried, exempt employee. I usually work 50 to 70 hours a week. I’m paid for 40. In March I went out of town on a high priority ass saving task to save a multi-million dollar contract. I worked 270 hours for 160 hours pay. Mission accomplished. In two weeks I will return home to Pocatello after 5 years away from my family with two weeks home each year. I’m too expensive. My employer enjoys the benefit of my skills, but can’t afford it. Even when I’m not paid for substantial amounts of work. I’m ready to be home. Five years on the road at my expense is enough.


34 posted on 09/01/2014 11:45:27 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: gop4lyf

Reaching back to my old Human Resources days (thank God for self-employment), “waiting to be engaged” is every bit as compensable as actually working. Facing action for leaving means you were such and you should have been paid for it.


35 posted on 09/01/2014 1:06:05 PM PDT by txeagle
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I’m too expensive. My employer enjoys the benefit of my skills, but can’t afford it.

you need to be a consultant, or acquire a significant voting stake in the company you work for. Or just admit you're underemployed and you're subsidizing your employer because you're unwilling to change things.

Admittedly large employers and the government have conspired together to make it more difficult to earn what you're worth to your employer or e.g. enjoy benefits comparable to similarly compensated employees.

36 posted on 09/01/2014 1:10:22 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: Dallas59
The kinds of cases that the NLRB usually does.

Resorts settle with DOL over FLSA violations, pay out more than $1M
The Aspen Times
Andre Salvail
February 25, 2014
"...failed to pay overtime wages to 134 employees at his five local restaurants for a period covering 19 months."


37 posted on 09/01/2014 3:28:46 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: no-s

Underemployed? I’m doing the work of 8 employees. Too bad
that it becomes a serial process that was handled
concurrently with the full staff in place. Cost. Schedule.
Quality. The number of deliverable features had to be
reduced for lack of enough skilled labor hours. Now they
choose cost as a driver. Will they opt for quality or
schedule as the other “leg”? The company went public, so
the share holders drive policy now. I miss the days of
being employee owned.


38 posted on 09/01/2014 3:54:26 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Underemployed? I’m doing the work of 8 employees.

If you're doing the work of 8 people but getting paid as 1 and and they can't hire another person, your employer is getting something for free. If they can hire another person to do that 8-man job then they must be paying what it's worth. As an employee you should always contribute a little premium over market to make sure replacing you is more trouble than it's worth, but 8x? c'mon. Frankly if your job description is inadequate you and your employer are conspiring to make your position seem like a lesser one than what you are actually capable of, ergo, "underemployed".

39 posted on 09/01/2014 4:13:12 PM PDT by no-s (when democracy is displaced by tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote)
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To: no-s

I’m going to end this exchange without further comment.


40 posted on 09/01/2014 5:29:13 PM PDT by Myrddin
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