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Karl Rove's PAC Trying to Win Arkansas, North Carolina by Running Left of Pryor, Hagan
Breitbart ^ | 30 Aug 2014 | C. EDMUND WRIGHT

Posted on 09/01/2014 9:14:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

Karl Rove and his Crossroads GPS PAC are about to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the senate -- by campaigning to the left of incumbents Mark Pryor and Kay Hagan on behalf of Republican challengers Tom Cotton and Thom Tills.

So blatant is this attempt in the latest round of TV ads that the Washington Post teased Rove with a headline that taunted him as a "bleeding heart liberal." Reporter/blogger Greg Sargent said in the story that the two ad campaigns "show Republicans once again hitting Dems from the left on entitlements." Salon ridiculed the North Carolina ad as the "dumbest of the season" so far, and it was almost identical to one run in Arkansas a few weeks ago.

The Post and Salon are often wrong in their assessment of Republican strategies, but in this instance, they are right on the money. In the recent spots for both the Arkansas and North Carolina markets, the emphasis is on Social Security and plays on the fears that Pryor and Hagan both support raising the eligibility age for benefits. When you consider that incrementally and gradually raising the benefit age is a common sense conservative idea -- and that Democrats routinely fear monger off of this very issue -- this is a clear case of Rove trying to out-liberal the Democrat candidates and not just settling for the normal "Democrat lite" campaign the GOP establishment prefers.

While this shameless pandering is bad enough on its on, it is simply incomprehensible given the current mood of the country to reject big government liberalism and all things Obama. It is also the most cynical type of niche politics.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: gope; karlrove; rove; traitor

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1 posted on 09/01/2014 9:14:05 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie; C. Edmund Wright

Ping!


2 posted on 09/01/2014 9:14:27 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Rove token opposition, has always been on the side of the destruction of the US. Only now with the divide so wide, his actions have become more obvious.


3 posted on 09/01/2014 9:18:39 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoConPubbie

Thanks for posting at FR! Was top Breitbart.com and BigGovernment.com feature part of Saturday and early Sunday.


4 posted on 09/01/2014 9:19:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SoConPubbie

How the Hell do we stop ROVE and the rest of his scum? Isn’t there some violation that we can nail him on and put him away for the rest of out lives?


5 posted on 09/01/2014 9:19:18 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Interesting insights:

“[Rove] has never directed a campaign with a compelling big picture, all encompassing message. In the direct mail world, you find one hot button and run a sale on that item in that zip code. In politics, it means you think of every voter as a single issue voter, and you try and niche your way to 271 electoral votes or 51 Senate seats with a little abortion over here and some social security over there — and maybe some trade protectionism some other place. When you run a television campaign the way you run a direct mail message, you actually damage your party’s ability to put together a coherent message.

“Another tell is Rove’s reliance on focus group data, which was certainly true in his failed 2012 efforts. Focus groups by their very definition — they last a couple hours — cannot possibly judge the effectiveness of a campaign message over a period of weeks or months. And yet, this is precisely what Rove and Frank Luntz and Haley Barbour rely on them to do.”


6 posted on 09/01/2014 9:21:57 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Found the ads in question:

http://youtu.be/1TBEkH3lKn0

http://youtu.be/N4WHfhL_6bQ?list=UUZtZuLHzPSeodii1DhtQzWA

The one from Arkansas is close to matching the description in the article, but not the one from NC - SS issue is one of a ...and don’t see how the ads could be described as “almost identical”.

It looks like this article is written about the liberal publications’ commentary on the ads vs. having actually seen the ads themselves...but then the next line says that they should be talking about Obamacare, which not only appears in both ads, but is also mentioned in the articles - one of them calling them the GOP’s “dishonest attacks” on Obamacare.


7 posted on 09/01/2014 9:27:33 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

“...issue is one of a number mentioned in the ad”


8 posted on 09/01/2014 9:28:38 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat; C. Edmund Wright
The one from Arkansas is close to matching the description in the article, but not the one from NC - SS issue is one of a ...and don’t see how the ads could be described as “almost identical”.

It looks like this article is written about the liberal publications’ commentary on the ads vs. having actually seen the ads themselves...but then the next line says that they should be talking about Obamacare, which not only appears in both ads, but is also mentioned in the articles - one of them calling them the GOP’s “dishonest attacks” on Obamacare.
Hey Edmund,

Care to reply to Republican Wildcat?
9 posted on 09/01/2014 9:30:48 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: FreeReign
Rove's problem is that he thinks he can play identity politics. That is based upon splitting the electorate into different groups and having a message for each one. "Message"= giving them something. There is no way republicans will ever throw in as many giveaways as the democrats. Republicans do well when they have one message and strip away the disaffected union worker, the traditional democrat, the middle class moderate who can't afford to send a kid to college.

My inlaws were lifelong democrats until Reagan, and they never went back. There are people out there that can be converted. Not by promising them a new government program! but by creating an environment where the economy can grow and the middle class can thrive again.

10 posted on 09/01/2014 9:32:53 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: ConservingFreedom

The Crossroads GPS ads are by and large very poorly produced since 2012...in 2010 they were more in line with what you would see from the GOP campaign committees and candidates, now they are even more generic than campaign ads can typically be...not sure how to describe it but by comparison you just watch an ad and you can just tell there’s nothing there. That NC ad jumps from one topic to another and you can’t hardly tell what point they are trying to get across. The AR ad says that Pryor wants to “overhaul Social Security” and “tell Pryor we need our benefits”...what?


11 posted on 09/01/2014 9:33:55 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: SoConPubbie

In that case, what’s teh point of electing Republicans?


12 posted on 09/01/2014 9:40:41 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Arkansas

Several months ago, ads were running that accused Cotton of wanting to raise the Social Security/Medicare ages.

More recently, ads have been runing that accuse Pryor of wanting to raise the Social Security/Medicare ages.

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Both sides have run ads that are strong on allegations and weak on facts.


13 posted on 09/01/2014 9:41:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: USNBandit
Rove's problem is that he thinks he can play identity politics.

Rove should know better. The identity politics of pandering won't work. We can't out democrat the Democrats nor is it a desirable thing to do if we could.

My inlaws were lifelong democrats until Reagan, and they never went back. There are people out there that can be converted. Not by promising them a new government program! but by creating an environment where the economy can grow and the middle class can thrive again.

Exactly. That's how we will win elections.

14 posted on 09/01/2014 9:46:36 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: SoConPubbie

Are the ads accurate descriptions of what the Demon Rats want to do?

If so, then let the ads run without griping.


15 posted on 09/01/2014 9:55:20 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoConPubbie

Karl please campaign in North Korea... you are a micron...


16 posted on 09/01/2014 9:57:29 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: FreeReign

He and his PAC must be destroyed.


17 posted on 09/01/2014 10:29:37 AM PDT by rcofdayton (.)
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To: SoConPubbie; Republican Wildcat

Wildcat I think your point about the NC ad is irrelevant. The ad does run to the left of the Democrats on Social Security. Yes, it’s a jumbled ad that jumps around, but for purposes here that’s not a criticism I am going to worry about.

As for Obama Care, it is fatuous to say that Crossroads is running an effective campaign against Obama Care. And their attacks on Obama Care are again from the left. I also think you’re expecting a 600 word article to cover every single nuance in detail. With 3000 words, maybe, but not an article of this length. There is nothing misleading about the headline or the main thrust of the article.

Mark Levin, Breitbart, American Thinker - and numerous other outlets have chosen to feature (the two different) articles I’ve written on these ads.


18 posted on 09/01/2014 10:49:07 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thanks


19 posted on 09/01/2014 11:08:16 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

To quote this article: “When you consider that incrementally and gradually raising the benefit age is a common sense conservative idea”

I DISSAGREE, No it is not a common sense conservative idea- what would be a common sense conservative idea is to continue to offer SS (unchanged), but to ALLOW those who are currently working to opt out of their future payroll taxes instead to be directed to personal (private) retirement accounts directed by the individual, not the Federal Government.

Gradually you’d get the government out of SS by attrition (because over time who’d want to stay in a stagnant system that doesn’t give ANY return on investment..)?


20 posted on 09/01/2014 11:27:12 AM PDT by JSDude1
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Damage Control...
I think there is more direct consternation with those respective incumbents positions or lack of them over the price for a gallon of gas , rising electric prices,or both directly connected with coping with those costly and pesky EPA regulations than on when to apply for a government retirement package.

Why is it necessary for an applicant to wait until age 70 to apply for Social Security for full benefits? Could be the question . Not when ?

Rove’s Crossroad’s useless interjection could be used that way by our two conservatives. Bringing up our ebbing manufacturing base and the democrat policies which created that need ie don’t get diverted stay directed.


21 posted on 09/01/2014 12:05:38 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: SoConPubbie

I saw a Rove ad and it didn’t impress. Thought a lib put it together.


22 posted on 09/01/2014 11:29:58 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Rove ... you STUPID BASTARD!


23 posted on 09/02/2014 5:27:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

yep - not “magnificent” by a long shot. Bastard? Oh yeah.


24 posted on 09/02/2014 5:50:51 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SoConPubbie

Karl Rove seems to have picked up some very messed up democrat ‘friends’ who must be surreptitiously feeding him some sort of delusional drugs.


25 posted on 09/02/2014 6:17:43 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise; All

I retract my statement, Karl Rove campaign policy is to hammer at the Democrat’s own base, that is intelligent even if it appears to support liberal policy’s.

We are never going to dismantle theses systems by appearing to be against those who have become depended upon theses government scams. Instead we should be doing as Karl Rove is doing is undermining their confident in the reliability of such promises.

We should be laving Karl Rove alone here, indeed let him spend his money anyway he wants following his goals, just acknowledge at the end of the day we won’t be voting that way.


26 posted on 09/02/2014 8:04:31 PM PDT by Monorprise
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