Economy Class Seating On A Pan Am 747 In The Late 1960's
Greyhound without the bedbugs (maybe)
I don’t need one of these devices. The person in front of me cannot recline because my knees are pressed into the back of the seat in front of me. That is what happens when you are 6-7. I’ve had someone page the flight attendant when they couldn’t recline and complain that their seat was broken. She looked back at me and told the person “No, it isn’t.”
I would love to see pictures of the two who inconvenienced the many to make sure I am no where near them.
Aisle seat works
I know if the Obamas had to fly coach they would have solved the problem like they School Lunches, etc, etc.
Blame gubmint regulation of airlines. Let them charge by size and weight like every other type of cargo.
Airlines have a solution! They want you to reach into your wallet and buy a first class or business class ticket!
A few years ago an airline -- "Midwest Express" -- was inspired to equip all of their airplanes with only first class leather 2 x 2 seating with legroom instead of the usual 3 x 3 with no legroom and provide "gourmet" meals. Airlines can't make much of a profit margin on the cut-price tickets. Midwest might have reduced the capacity by about 1/3 but the passengers they had were paying customers. IIRC, the ticket price from Newark into Milwaukee was roughly the same as the United price into Chicago. My guesstimate was that any airline could do this for about $20 per ticket. But apparently air travel is so price sensitive that passengers and corporate travel departments won't pay an extra $20 for decent accommodations. Midwest Express' business model didn't survive long after the post-9/11 recession.
I usually drive or take the train now. If I want to go somewhere that I can't possibly drive to -- like Hawaii or Europe -- I use my frequent flyer miles to upgrade the ticket.
The airlines can probably explain this somehow but I don't see how adding a 4,000 mile round trip from Detroit to L.A. can lower a price.
Anomaly? Nope. I was flying from Newark to Greenville, SC. Fare was ~$650, connecting through Charlotte. If I flew only to Charlotte and drove the rest of the way? $970. Somehow adding a round trip to Greenville made the price go down.
To me, it seems the airlines price by what someone will pay, not what it costs the airline to operate. Business travelers and their routes get hammered.
Fight or Flight???
A whole new meaning in this modern age of technology.
I have long-length thighbones and flying is an experience in complete discomfort for me. However, in the case of this United flight, I think the problem was not knee pain, but the top half of the seat invading his upper torso comfort zone. My understanding is that the man in question wanted to use his laptop and that’s impossible with it shoved up under your throat.
If you don’t want your knees crushed, fly friggin’ first class.
the simple solution is to put self loading freight
that weights more that 250# into the
porker section where the seats don’t recline.
I’m 6’ 1” and I never recline if there is somebody in the seat behind me because I think it is inconsiderate. This is based on years and years of frequent flyer travel. Unfortunately many people see nothing wrong with slamming their seat back into my face. So between the recliner in front and kid behind kicking the seat, air travel can be a truly miserable experience.
because airlines are so poor in service, and the groping TSAs, I, too, refuse to fly. I drive - even if I want to go to Canada or Alaska from Texas. So far, I refuse to even consider going where I have to cross a body of water, say like the Pacific. Supply and demand - airlines think they have the ability to charge more and serve less. I simply decline and drive. Take a greyhound bus? No thank you. Take a greyhound plane? No thank you.
Plan ahead. Book early. Choose an escape door aisle. Legroom!
If you want to recline your seat, then be prepared for a bumpy ride because every time I shift my 6’3” frame — something I do often when someone reclines into my space — my knees are going to bang and wack the the back your seat. Also, since your head is now inches from my face, there is a really good chance that my newspaper will flop over the top of your seat and mess with your hair. Like elections, reclining your seat has consequences.
Economy Class Seating On A Pan Am 747 In The Late 1960's
“The more crowded planes are the crankier passengers have become.”
You know, I understand the business flyer issue, but really, why do people still patronize an industry that is in bed with so much regulation, intrusive conditions to fly domestically AND internationally, with all these “cranky” people in the first place???
If you want to vacation somewhere, why fly...Isn’t the vacation about the journey, and not so much the intended destination...Why go somewhere where you feel it is better to fly, than to drive???
There are SO many places to go right in and around your area, within a days drive you could not run out of places to go almost...
And your travel budgets are already strained to the maximum that it kinda takes away from the time, and amount you can enjoy your vacations in the first place...
I’m sure I’ll get the usual Airline employees here that feel they would lose their jobs of people started to really NOT utilize this business for their recreational usage...
Just my opinion...
These says, people go through such lengths to avoid a little inconvenience. Like those idiots that park diagonal in two parking spaces at the mall because they don't want somebody to ding their precious Lexus. We really are spoiled brats.