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BTLD | 8/27/14 | BTLD

Posted on 08/27/2014 6:14:22 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo

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To: thackney

You just confused me.

Look, I like writing. I’ve been told I’m pretty good at it. Why should I - the copyright holder - not have the right to excerpt my own work? It’s not as if my blog makes money - I refuse to have ads at all, since they are annoying as hell, and never look at traffic. It’s simply a place I use to date stamp to establish copyright.

Yet these things are my creations. How should they be treated differently from MSM articles?


461 posted on 08/29/2014 7:14:07 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

Why do you think the rights of the owner of Free Republic are less than yours?

If you want to use FR to promote your work, follow the requests set forth by the owner of FR. If you don’t want to do that, please don’t use this member-supported site to promote your blog.


462 posted on 08/29/2014 7:18:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: EC1

Do you think folks should be paid for writing vanity threads?


463 posted on 08/29/2014 7:18:49 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: EC1; humblegunner; thackney

It isn’t difficult to follow the guidelines as they are.
Unless you are stupid, have broken fingers, a defective mouse, or lack lackeys to push buttons for you.
Seriously, it is not hard at all to follow “Post text in full and actually DISCUSS things”.
Too many bloggers post an excerpt to pull traffic AWAY from FR for their own monetary considerations, and they do not discuss anything in the content of their blog.

Again, and in capitalized letters: WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT POSTING FULL TEXT?
One BS artist tried telling us that he could ONLY excerpt as the forum software wouldn’t let him do anything else.
Funny thing is, to excerpt, you need to hit a box that says “Excerpt” in order to do so..
Too bad for him we know how to post articles!

I guess I WILL post the special blogger edition of the Undead Thread.
And I’ll ping the blogger whiners to it too!


464 posted on 08/29/2014 7:26:29 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee! First one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: humblegunner

I just specifically stated I do not get paid, I refuse point blank to have ads. Actually for the exact same reason that there are no ads here on FR - I want to be able to write what I want, when I want, with no outside influence.

I respect the rules here. I don’t excerpt, the odd time I write something that is worth posting. I link, yes, because the one thing every writer wants is readers. I don’t even plug my books here.


465 posted on 08/29/2014 7:34:17 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

I respect the rules here. I don’t excerpt, the odd time I write something that is worth posting. I link, yes, because the one thing every writer wants is readers.

- - - - -

Thank you for that. I don’t think there are any complaints about the links. I’ve certainly read Jim Robinson posting that is fine.


466 posted on 08/29/2014 7:38:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

Thank you :)

It’s a fine line to walk, right? I mean, write something, edit it, do all the research and you are proud of it. You want to share it with like minded people or use it to open the odd eye here and there. Yet you have to respect the venue and the owner of it, while also respecting your own rights as the creator of this limping bit of prose.

I would like the option to excerpt things I want to keep copyright on - initial ideas that may eventually become a column or chapter in a book. I’ve had ideas stolen from me in the past, and that hurts, massively. They may be deformed children, but they are mine.


467 posted on 08/29/2014 7:57:45 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

Does posting to a public blog versus posting it to Free Republic provide any protection at all from others taking and using it?

I understand what you are trying to do, but I don’t understand how it provides any difference.


468 posted on 08/29/2014 8:01:48 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: upchuck

“Thanks for the kind words. I couldn’t be on the Internet without AdBlockPlus. Pages would take so long to download it would be impracticable.”

I was thinking and still thinking kind thoughts this morning.

AdBlockPlus enabled me to log on to Comcast with in seconds and to get to my mail. I was able to go through about 20 emails in about 5 minutes.

Before AdBlockPlus it has taken 2-5 minutes or more to just get on Comcast and about the same time to log in and get to my email. Then it used to take about 1-2 minutes to get to each email and then 1-2 minutes to respond or delete.

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I had a little difficulty yesterday getting ComCast to respond after I down loaded AdBlockPlus at first and had to reassign the ComCast home page as mine.

Even Goggle Chrome is faster this morning. Norton has done a good job of keeping the crud off Google Chrome for me.

Your response re my computer probles, is another example of why Free Republic is worth every penny I pay each month.

Thanks again.


469 posted on 08/29/2014 8:05:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If you don't Donate to Free Republic. Shame on you! Freep Loaders are scum!)
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To: EC1; thackney

You happen to be a FReeper that has a blog. Usually it’s the reverse, bloggers use FR to drive traffic to their site. Since FR is a user supported site it’s unfair that we are used to advertise for someone else. This is a very different scenario than a Freeper who also has a blog. Most bloggers are not part of our community and they simply use FR as a vehicle for hits.


470 posted on 08/29/2014 8:08:39 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: thackney

When you post to a blog it gets time and date stamped.

A private site, such as FR, it can be argued that the admin changed the date stamp. A huge public site, well, that gets tinfoil hat levels fast if you try to argue it.

I’ve been on both sides of the copyright wars. I’ve been accused of plagiarism and I have had entire articles ripped off.

If it was something I was paid for - which means copyright goes to the person paying, I just report it. Their problem, not mine. I do write the odd pro bono piece for another conservative site and I formally assign copyright to them from time to time. Makes it their problem, not mine.

But my own stuff - I have time and date stamps for everything. I can be a tad possessive at times :) Sticking it up on the blog or google docs leaves a paper trail.


471 posted on 08/29/2014 8:23:33 AM PDT by EC1
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To: DJ MacWoW

I have never got that.

Look, I want eyeballs on my pearls of wisdom as much as the next writer, but doing that - using an existing community - is so damned tacky.


472 posted on 08/29/2014 8:25:58 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1

An Admin at a Blog site could not be accused of doing the same?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, I’m trying to learn.

Secondly, if you post full text to Free Republic, after first posting to your blog and then providing link at FR to your blog, how would you have lost the protection from your blog date/time stamp? That has not changed.


473 posted on 08/29/2014 8:28:24 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: EC1

I agree, it is tacky but look at the “ethics” of our current society. Self has been inflated to be the most important thing in life.


474 posted on 08/29/2014 8:29:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: thackney; EC1
Secondly, if you post full text to Free Republic, after first posting to your blog and then providing link at FR to your blog, how would you have lost the protection from your blog date/time stamp?

Wouldn't that give a "double time stamp" to prove it was original work?

475 posted on 08/29/2014 8:31:34 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: thackney

Copyright is a pain.

I tend to write novels in episodes - remember those? :)

I’ll print each one out and post them to myself before letting people see them. The post mark is another date stamp.

FR is honest, I don’t worry so much here. But there is this idea that anything online is fair game.


476 posted on 08/29/2014 8:37:28 AM PDT by EC1
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To: Free Vulcan
"I really don’t want FR to turn out the lights, but I hate what this place has become."

Judging from your very healthy and frequent posting history, you must not hate it that much.

477 posted on 08/29/2014 8:39:24 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.)))
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To: DJ MacWoW; EC1
Wouldn't that give a "double time stamp" to prove it was original work?

I was simply thinking the original blog post provides the same copyright proof, regardless of what is posted on FR afterwards.

But I am ready to learn more.

FR is honest, I don’t worry so much here.

Anyone can read it. No membership required to get access to cut and paste. I have no illusions about material being "safe" here. But I just don't see that any different than a public accessible blog.

478 posted on 08/29/2014 8:44:11 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I wrote a Valentines day article a couple years back and it was stolen.*cough Yahoo, cough*

They swore blind it was coincidence. Even though all 6 points were the same and one typo (hey, I type fast) was in the article.

Copyright is a horrible mess.


479 posted on 08/29/2014 8:45:18 AM PDT by EC1
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To: EC1
Copyright is a horrible mess.

It is and people think they have all sorts of "rights" to other people's property. *sigh*

480 posted on 08/29/2014 8:51:03 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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