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BRITISH CROSS SEINE, SMASH FLEEING FOE; RUSSIANS TAKE BESSARABIA, NEAR GALATI (8/27/44)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/27/44 | Drew Middleton, John MacCormac, David Anderson, Hanson W. Baldwin, Sidney Shalett, George Axelsson

Posted on 08/27/2014 4:15:31 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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To: Steven Scharf
Steven Scharf: "That is pretty bad gas mileage and that is for diesel which is supposed to be better on fuel."

A German 60 ton Tiger I tank 650 HP gasoline engine, carried 140 gallons, which could take it 70 miles off-road, 120 miles on road.

By contrast the US 33 ton Sherman tank 400 HP gasoline engine carried 175 gallons, which took it about 90 miles off-road, 200 miles on road.

The problem of course, from German perspective, is they have no fuel reserves left, while western allies fuel supplies are limited only by their ability to reach the front.

21 posted on 08/27/2014 12:53:55 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: CPT Clay

>>Lucky we let them speak French.<<

Our biggest mistake (think Quebec).

;)


22 posted on 08/27/2014 1:52:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

“all planes returned safely” is arguably the most beautiful phrase in the English language.


23 posted on 08/27/2014 1:56:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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The problem of course, from German perspective, is they have no fuel reserves left, while western allies fuel supplies are limited only by their ability to reach the front.

Exactly!

If you notice the missions for the bomber group, many are against fuel storage and refineries.

We knew they were out of fuel and way over extended.

The Allies problem is, they can't get enough fuel up to the front fast enough to match the pace of the Armies. The Allies don't have a port of sufficient size, close enough, to be able to handle the demands of their armies.

Ike knows this. The Allies feel one strong push will collapse the German Army and it's political infrastructure.

Out of this thought process, Market Garden will come. One last push.

We have a few weeks until Market Garden, so let's see how thing unfold.

Oh yea, the V-2's...yea they are real and they play havoc. But Again, that is next month's slim to none headline.

24 posted on 08/27/2014 8:28:01 PM PDT by occamrzr06 (A great life is but a series of dogs!)
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To: BroJoeK

“A German 60 ton Tiger I tank 650 HP gasoline engine”

Are they gas or diesel?

Was the warm up requirement in Kelly’s Heros a plot fiction in that the tanks were not diesel and did not need to be warmed up every hour.


25 posted on 08/27/2014 8:44:19 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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I could be wrong - wouldn’t be the first time - but everything I’ve read leads me to believe that WWII tanks ran on gasoline.

I think there were diesel trucks in use as part of the logistics train.


26 posted on 08/27/2014 8:49:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance; Steven Scharf

German & American tanks ran on gasoline.
The 26 ton Russian T-34 500 HP engine ran on diesel.
It had a top speed of 33 mph and range of 250 miles.

T-34s were not as capable as later German tanks, but were produced in quantities of at least ten to one.
And Russians had plenty of diesel fuel.


27 posted on 08/28/2014 7:23:13 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: BroJoeK

Thanks for such an informative post!


28 posted on 08/28/2014 7:31:49 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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quantities of at least ten to one.

That's one of the reasons Stalin said, "Quantity has a quality all its own."

29 posted on 08/28/2014 7:54:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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