Posted on 08/21/2014 10:10:41 AM PDT by scouter
The U.S. bishops' Committee for Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs said the Catholic church remains committed to dialogue with leaders of other religions and Muslims in particular.
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"Sadly, in recent years, there has been a deliberate rejection of this call to engage in dialogue with our Muslim brothers and sisters by some in the Catholic Church and in other ecclesial families," said the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' committee, whose chairman is Auxiliary Bishop Denis Madden of Baltimore.
"We understand the confusion and deep emotions stirred by real and apparent acts of aggression and discrimination by certain Muslims against non-Muslims, often against Christians abroad," it said. "We, and increasingly our Muslim partners in dialogue, are concerned about these very real phenomena."
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"Real and apparent acts of aggression?! Which "Muslim partners" have expressed their "concern"?
What planet does he live on?
Clueless.
And people wonder why I essentially disregard anything stated by the USCCB.
(And I say this as a Catholic)
Kumbaya. Looks like the wrong people have been promoted to be US Bishops.
I have grown to despise the words “dialogue”, “social justice”, “migrant”, “refugee”, “collaboration”, etc., as defined by the Bishops Conference mouthpieces, which reflect sharply their biased support for INVASION, and for the invaders (aka, illegal immigrants), and their bias against order, and borders, and border law enforcement, which are the net result of what we have heard from them so far.
A scandal in its own right is the surreal avoidance by the Conference to realities on the ground, to truth and justice in real terms that is causing inaction, guarantees increasing and real risk of death and destruction to Catholics around the world, here and abroad.
Like Obama, it’s what the Conference is refusing to address and to even face, the INACTION and empty “dialogue” that is getting people killed and going to continue. I hate to say it, but I have.
Viva Christo Rey!
Amen!
Let’s us all have a nice little dialogue with SATAN.
Yeah, that’ll work out well...................
The “Christian Churches” are nothing but a pack of horse’s asses.
Here's a hint: The ONLY thing those raghead animals understand comes out of the barrel of a gun.
"Two in the head, you know abdul is dead!"
This is from an article published in OnePeterFive.com
The following is a brief list of quotes from Catholic saints about Islam and its founder, Muhammad. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it is illustrative of how Catholics — particularly those favored sons and daughters of the Church we now know to be in heaven – viewed the Muslim faith in prior generations:
“Whoever does not embrace the Catholic Christian faith is lost, like your false prophet Muhammad.”
-St. Peter Mavimenus (d. 8th century), martyr from Gaza. Response reported in the Martyriologum Romanum when he was asked to convert to Islam by a group of Muslims.
“There is also the superstition of the Ishmaelites which to this day prevails and keeps people in error, being a forerunner of the Antichrist…. From that time to the present a false prophet named Mohammed has appeared in their midst. This man, after having chanced upon the Old and New Testaments and likewise, it seems, having conversed with an Arian monk, devised his own heresy. Then, having insinuated himself into the good graces of the people by a show of seeming piety, he gave out that a certain book had been sent down to him from heaven. He had set down some ridiculous compositions in this book of his and he gave it to them as an object of veneration.”
-St. John Damascene (d. 749), Syrian Arab Catholic monk and scholar. Quoted from his book On Heresies under the section On the Heresy of the Ishmaelites (in The Fathers of the Church. Vol. 37. Translated by the Catholic University of America. CUA Press. 1958. Pages 153-160.)
“We profess Christ to be truly God and your prophet to be a precursor of the Antichrist and other profane doctrine.”
-Sts. Habenitus, Jeremiah, Peter, Sabinian, Walabonsus, and Wistremundus (d. 851), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death.
“Any cult which denies the divinity of Christ, does not profess the existence of the Holy Trinity, refutes baptism, defames Christians, and derogates the priesthood, we consider to be damned.”
-Sts. Aurelius, Felix, George, Liliosa, and Natalia (d. 852), martyrs of Cordoba, Spain. Reported in the Memoriale Sanctorum in response to Spanish Umayyad Caliph ‘Abd Ar-Rahman II’s ministers that they convert to Islam on pain of death.
“On the other hand, those who founded sects committed to erroneous doctrines proceeded in a way that is opposite to this, the point is clear in the case of Muhammad. He seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh goads us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected, he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity. He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the contrary, Muhammad said that he was sent in the power of his arms—which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants.”
-St. Thomas Aquinas (d. 1274), Theologian and Doctor of the Church. Quoted from his De Rationibus Fidei Contra Saracenos, Graecos, et Armenos and translated from Fr. Damian Fehlner’s Aquinas on Reasons for the Faith: Against the Muslims, Greeks, and Armenians (Franciscans of the Immaculate. 2002.).
“As we have seen, Muhammed had neither supernatural miracles nor natural motives of reason to persuade those of his sect. As he lacked in everything, he took to bestial and barbaric means, which is the force of arms. Thus he introduced and promulgated his message with robberies, murders, and bloodshedding, destroying those who did not want to receive it, and with the same means his ministers conserve this today, until God placates his anger and destroys this pestilence from the earth.
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(Muhammad) can also be figured for the dragon in the same Apocalypse which says that the dragon swept up a third of the stars and hurled down a third to earth. Although this line is more appropriately understood concerning the Antichrist, Mohammed was his precursor – the prophet of Satan, father of the sons of haughtiness.
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Even if all the things contained in his law were fables in philosophy and errors in theology, even for those who do not possess the light of reason, the very manners (Islam) teaches are from a school of vicious bestialities. (Muhammad) did not prove his new sect with any motive, having neither supernatural miracles nor natural reasons, but solely the force of arms, violence, fictions, lies, and carnal license. It remains an impious, blasphemous, vicious cult, an innovention of the devil, and the direct way into the fires of hell. It does not even merit the name of being called a religion.”
-St. Juan de Ribera (d.1611), Archbishop of Valencia, missionary to Spanish Muslims, and organizer of the Muslim expulsions of 1609 from Spain. Quoted in several locations from his 1599 Catechismo para la Instruccion de los Nuevos Convertidos de los Moros (my translation).
“The Mahometan paradise, however, is only fit for beasts; for filthy sensual pleasure is all the believer has to expect there.”
St. Alfonsus Liguori (d. 1787). Quoted from his book, The History of Heresies and their Refutation.
Oh how kind and wonderful Ok, you got your window dressing, now get the hell outta the way so we can annihilate this scum.
This type of nonsense is a danger to the survival of this country. -Tom
I certainly think they should have tried to dialogue. But after 50 years of beating your head against a stone wall, and thousands upon thousands of dead, you'd think they'd figure out that "all other means have been tried and found not to work." In other words, that it was time for military action to defend the innocent. Christ was not a pacifist! If so, he would never have tolerated the possession of assault weapons (i.e., swords) by his apostles.
That the False Prophet is Mohammed, works for me as a worthy hypothesis, as it also seemingly becomes more apparent every day.
We’re going to keep talking until they cut our throats.
Neither have I. What did he say and where?
The bishops just do not seem to listen to those who have had to DEAL with the Muslims.
Same here.
The best thing I can say about the USCCB is that (I think, and pray) they will be the last of their kind. I really do believe that those younger men coming up through the ranks — while having their work cut out for them — have a more realistic view of what is actually facing us (us as Catholics, us as Americans) and won’t stoop to the trite, soothing pablum that passes for “statements” these days.
Otherwise... I just don’t know.
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