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Breast-feeding moms stage nurse-in at Oregon restaurant
Washington Times ^ | 8/18/14

Posted on 08/19/2014 4:47:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Dozens of mothers staged a nurse-in at an Oregon restaurant in protest on Sunday after a manager asked one woman to cover up while she nursed her baby.

Erin Klein said a manager at the Ram Restaurant in Happy Valley asked her to cover up as she nursed her 11-month-old, because other customers had apparently complained....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: babies; food; motherhood
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Get a life.

Look, I really don't care if a mom breastfeeds her child....but making a spectacle about it is STUPID.

1 posted on 08/19/2014 4:47:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

American women have NO modesty. In the third world, where everything is different and there are no facilities which accommodate this, of course they still do this in public.

It is NOT necessary here, and people who do it are just using their child to get attention! Not wholesome.


2 posted on 08/19/2014 4:49:32 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Just waiting for the ‘No Lactose, No Peace’ signs to start being deployed ....


3 posted on 08/19/2014 4:52:36 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Thread is pointless w/o pics...


4 posted on 08/19/2014 4:54:36 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: SMARTY

It may be about getting attention or it may be about the complete dismissal of manners and decorum in our society in general.


5 posted on 08/19/2014 4:54:40 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They are just trying to express themselves.


6 posted on 08/19/2014 4:55:10 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: SoFloFreeper
20 years ago, they played this exact scene on "Married With Children."

Marcy: Breast-feeding is a normal, biological function.

Al: So is peeing, but you don't see me doing it.

7 posted on 08/19/2014 4:58:20 AM PDT by YourAdHere (Barack is the wife.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Good heavens woman! Nobody wants to see your bare breasts,is that why you insist on flopping them out in public?

I don’t understand what is so onerous about covering while nursing.


8 posted on 08/19/2014 4:58:42 AM PDT by GilesB
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To: SoFloFreeper

Likely ugly, composting leg and underarm hair liberal women.


9 posted on 08/19/2014 4:59:59 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is modern America.

This is also the era of selfies, posting videos of people doing dumb things on U-Tube, facebook, reality shows....

We are a society that craves attention


10 posted on 08/19/2014 5:01:21 AM PDT by LMAO (("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush))
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To: GilesB
I don’t understand what is so onerous about covering while nursing.

There are plenty of nursing mothers in our church. At our social events, they are VERY good at nursing without being noticeable. All parties involved no where everything is, and the target is not hard to find.
11 posted on 08/19/2014 5:02:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: SMARTY
It is NOT necessary here, and people who do it are just using their child to get attention! Not wholesome.

Too broad a statement - there are times when it is totally appropriate, but the woman should have the sense to use a little bit of discretion by minimizing the display. Breast feeding is best for most children and we ca't expect Moms to have their every action planned out so it never occurs in public. When done properly, it can actually help instill a sense of modesty in youngsters who observe it. Not every action which bares a part of a woman is an immodest/immoral/depraved action and we do no favors by trying to pretend that nature is not what it is. You can't teach a person responsible respect for sexuality by putting up an impenetrable shield.

12 posted on 08/19/2014 5:02:37 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: F15Eagle

Just waiting for the ‘No Lactose, No Peace’ signs to start being deployed ....

...the other customers are probably thinking ‘thanks for the mammaries...’


13 posted on 08/19/2014 5:03:41 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: All

those women need to stay out of restaurants and do their grazing at home..


14 posted on 08/19/2014 5:04:13 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Mouton

Right. MY mother raised two of us with NEVER a need for doing this kind of thing in a public place.

If it’s a problem, maybe mom ought to stay home with her child until it ISN’T a problem.

Of course, mothers now days wouldn’t DREAM of staying home to care for their children... they’re all over the place... I have even seen young moms out shopping with what look to be newborns babies... What ? You can’t stay home even a couple weeks?


15 posted on 08/19/2014 5:06:33 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: SMARTY
There is nothing “unwholesome” about breast feeding a baby and I have no problem with nursing in public. But I do think that women need to be discrete about it. I note the restaurant manager didn’t ask her to stop breastfeeding but only to “cover up” and I don’t think that is an unreasonable request. There are light weight blankets, cover-ups that can and should be used in such situations.

There is no excuse for whipping out her boob(s) in public for all to see.

16 posted on 08/19/2014 5:09:57 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: SoFloFreeper
Lactivists strike again: Angry mothers stage protest at music shop after woman 'thrown out for breastfeeding'


17 posted on 08/19/2014 5:13:25 AM PDT by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: freedumb2003

“Thread is pointless w/o pics...”

There was a picture of the offended cow at the WP site. Believe me...the original FR poster of this thread did you a favor by NOT displaying that pic.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 5:16:25 AM PDT by moovova
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To: LMAO

You know you bring up an interesting point. In communities, let’s say like the Amish, nursing a baby is part of the culture. Most likely, however, you would never see an Amish woman nursing her baby in a restaurant though. But in our world, nursing is not necessarily the general rule. There are still plenty of women who bottle feed their babies. So, it always seemed to me to not be so much a standard practice, but a statement of some kind. Because of this I , too, get the feeling there is a lot of attention seeking going on.


19 posted on 08/19/2014 5:17:03 AM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The babies’ heads are always in the way.


20 posted on 08/19/2014 5:18:10 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: LMAO

Same thing happened at one of the big malls down in Miami Florida. Someone was asked to be discrete....and all hell broke loose.

Whiner City.


21 posted on 08/19/2014 5:18:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: IrishBrigade

You’re being udderly ridiculous.


22 posted on 08/19/2014 5:19:40 AM PDT by outofsalt
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ah yes, the mammary mafia. Don’t you dare suggest that the sight of a woman breastfeeding her child in public is in any way vulgar or you’ll be reminded what a beautifully maternal and nurturing thing it is .. and don’t you forget it, you gynophobic pig!


23 posted on 08/19/2014 5:22:22 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: SoFloFreeper

Dear people with mammary glands. It is no more natural and appropriate for you to wave you bare boobs around in public because a baby is hungry, than it is for me to wave my penis around because I have to pee. If I had to pee in public, I would turn my back and face a tree or bush.

There is an article of clothing that serves the nursing mother quite well, it is called a shawl. You can nurse your baby anywhere, as my wife did, and not be putting on a show at the same time. It can be thin and light as silk.

There is nothing magical that makes a boob less of a boob when you are nursing with it. If you wouldn’t put them on display when you aren’t nursing, then don’t put them on display when you are nursing.

IMHO, there is a type of woman who is an attention hound and turns weddings and motherhood into a theatrical productions. I’ve never heard of anyone having an issue with a modest woman who was nursing a baby.

I suspect that these are the same mothers who think it appropriate to change their baby’s dirty diapers in the middle of restaurants.


24 posted on 08/19/2014 5:32:25 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

They do it to get attention but if you look, they get mad.


25 posted on 08/19/2014 5:35:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Somewhat related ...

Using restaurant table to change diaper is a real etiquette no-no

Last week, a pizza joint in Spring ordered a mother and her three children to leave after the woman changed her 4-month-old baby's poopy diaper at their table.

The woman said she had no option because the restaurant's ladies room didn't have a changing table and she "didn't want to take everyone back to the minivan to do the diaper change."

Ah, poor baby … and I mean the mother.

It made national news.

26 posted on 08/19/2014 5:40:23 AM PDT by Zakeet (If idiots could fly, the senate would be an airport)
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To: freedumb2003

Olivia Wilde recently did this.

Olivia Wilde’s Breastfeeding Photo Causes a Stir
https://www.yahoo.com/health/olivia-wildes-breastfeeding-photo-causes-a-stir-93893024387.html


27 posted on 08/19/2014 5:42:05 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: outofsalt

ROFLMAO!


28 posted on 08/19/2014 5:42:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MD Expat in PA; SMARTY

Discreteness is the key. My wife nursed all 7 of our children and simply covered up when it was necessary and we were in a public place. Little baby blanket was all it took. From 1983 through 2004. Never once had a complaint, but then she never showed anything. And there were plenty of restaurants, parks, planes and other inconvenient public places.


29 posted on 08/19/2014 5:47:46 AM PDT by LibertyOh
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To: sueuprising

There are so many ways to nurse discreetly that to show your breast, you have to be trying to! I am completely in favor of breastfeeding, but not displaying breasts. Even away from home. I nursed in the Baltimore aquarium, the Smithsonian, the grocery store....No one ever knew!


30 posted on 08/19/2014 5:50:17 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I think the rule for nursing in restaurants is “no tips”.


31 posted on 08/19/2014 5:51:43 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: exit82
They are just trying to express themselves.

Aaaaaaaaaaah! Good one!
Why does everyone have to protest something? Can't they just (wait for it) go with the flow? badumbum ting.

32 posted on 08/19/2014 5:56:15 AM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: exit82
They are just trying to express themselves.

Crap, there goes another keyboard!


33 posted on 08/19/2014 5:59:37 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SoFloFreeper

Something can be perfectly legal, natural, healthy, and still be very impolite around the dinner table. I can think of quite a number of things that fall into that general classification.

If I were a bliss-ninny drama queen fighting for the right to be inconsiderate and gross without eliciting honest criticism I’m sure I could snag some headlines by forcibly exposing diners in public to some of my natural rights.


34 posted on 08/19/2014 6:02:46 AM PDT by jameslalor
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To: moovova

Heifers with a cause. As if there isn’t enough cultural disintegration happening already, we get these obstinate young “heroes” tossing a lactose laden mammary across the folds of their ashen-white, postpartum guts while the rest of the properly clothed patrons try to enjoy an expensive meal. That’s great.


35 posted on 08/19/2014 6:07:14 AM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m a former breastfeeding Mom...

Cover up that boob you boob !!!!

and don’t feed your baby in public when you don’t have too..

arrange your day so that you are home or in private ...


36 posted on 08/19/2014 6:10:17 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Zakeet

Actually, I think it should have been criminalized for deliberatly cntaminating a food area. Can you imagine what would happen if a food worker stuck his hand in poop and then made your lunch?


37 posted on 08/19/2014 6:19:51 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: trebb

I agree with you trebb. Breasts feed babies. I’m sorry if people are offended by a mother breastfeeding her baby in public...then maybe they should leave.
Seriously, we are a very modest family, but breastfeeding is THE most important thing you can do for your child. If we are out to dinner and my grandson needs to eat, my daughter is NOT going to go sit in a dirty bathroom stall to feed him. So she feeds him at the table. My grandson will pull off the blanket every time she puts it up. People see less of her breast when she is feeding him then they see from the cheerleaders when they watch Monday Night Football.
I raised my daughters very modest, no bikinis, shorts to their knees, no belly shirts, etc. My daughters still dress that way. Breast feeding in public is not about not being modest, it’s about using the breast for what GOD DESIGNED THEM FOR!
Okay, just my two cents. This topic makes me crazy.


38 posted on 08/19/2014 6:21:40 AM PDT by republicanbred (...and when I die I'll be republican dead.)
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To: republicanbred

NO OUTSIDE FOOD.


39 posted on 08/19/2014 6:26:37 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: SMARTY
If it’s a problem, maybe mom ought to stay home with her child until it ISN’T a problem.

Of course, mothers now days wouldn’t DREAM of staying home to care for their children... they’re all over the place... I have even seen young moms out shopping with what look to be newborns babies... What ? You can’t stay home even a couple weeks?

Wow. The horrors you must have to dealt with in seeing newborns in public. Does it (seeing a newborn baby) give you nightmares? Do you suffer from PTSD from seeing a newborn in public?

Are you also of the opinion that pregnant women should confine themselves at home and out of the public once they start showing as used to be the norm way back when? And how old should a baby be before he or she should be taken out of the home for the first time? 4 weeks? Six months? A year? Not before they are eating solid foods and or potty trained, not before they are able to engage adults in polite conversation?

People used to believe that newborns were so fragile and so prone to exposure to picking up diseases that they were confined at home along with their moms for several months after birth. I remember a time when even family members and family friends were discouraged from coming to visit the new parents in those first few weeks and even from holding the newborn except in very “sterile conditions”.

But newborns, excepting for those who have certain medical conditions at birth or those who are preemies, in or just coming out of a NICU, actually have a very strong immune system, especially if their mother breastfeeds. And we used to think that keeping a newborn in an overly warm, dark, quiet room and, overly bundled up and away from all noise and all unnecessary stimulus and contact with anyone other than mom and dad for those first few weeks was a good thing. But stimulus and contact with other family members, even exposure to fresh air, even cold and heat, and sunshine has been proven to be good for newborn babies. There is no reason, excepting for those babies with compromised immune systems, that they should not be taken on shopping trips with mom. Personally I love seeing those amazing and beautiful newborns with their moms out in public. It does my heart good to see a stay at home mom going out in public while she is caring for her baby rather than giving her baby’s care over to strangers in a day care center while she goes to work.

I would also ask you if you think that menstruating women also confine themselves for 7 days and away from all men, not sit in places that men might sit until they are “clean” again and on the 8th day make a sacrifice of “two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness.” (Leviticus 15:19-30)? Of course back in the days of Leviticus, there probably weren’t any such thing as sanitary napkins and tampons so there were some very good reasons for those rules back when, except for the idea that a woman’s menstruation is sinful…..

Breastfeeding is not a “problem” that needs to be solved or dealt with like some sort of disease or as some sort of immoral act just because it involves “boobs” that others need to be shielded from just because some men only see boobs as a sexual organ. It is a perfectly natural and IMO a beautiful thing for a mother to breastfeed her baby. It is good for the baby and good for the mother, both emotionally and physically.

But I do agree that women who are breast feeding in public can and should be discrete about it.

Women who breastfeed their babies, even in public are doing nothing wrong IMO as long as they are not whipping out their bare boobs for all and everyone to see, without any sense of discretion and decorum or common decency and not trying to make a spectacle of themselves and their babies as some sort of political or feminist statement. But most of the breastfeeding mom’s I’ve known don’t fall into that category.

40 posted on 08/19/2014 6:31:00 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: SoFloFreeper

Like too, people demanding they bring their “comfort animal” into a restaurant/food store. I think those mom’s are just trying sensationalism.


41 posted on 08/19/2014 6:31:58 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Often baby doesn’t cooperate with the effort to cover up and tosses the cover off or refuses to nurse while covered.


42 posted on 08/19/2014 6:35:37 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: massgopguy

Years ago, a guy I worked with had his infant with him...he went into a Starbucks to see if they could warm up the baby bottle....they refused, citing some health department regs.


43 posted on 08/19/2014 6:38:50 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: exit82

“They are just trying to express themselves.”

(I see what you did there...)


44 posted on 08/19/2014 6:42:50 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: ErnBatavia

When my youngest was two she had to urinate.

We were in Rite Aid. I asked to permit her to use the bathroom. They refused, and she started crying and wet herself, the cart she was sitting on and all the items in the cart. I was so angry that I still wont go in their lousy stores.


45 posted on 08/19/2014 6:43:17 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I am so tired of the militant, in your face breastfeeding mom. I nursed six babies and never once had the urge to let the world know whenever I was feeding a baby. There are some oddly pushy breastfeeding moms in our homeschool cooperative, but they are always the women who are rather odd anyway. Confident, attractive, well adjusted women just don't do this.
46 posted on 08/19/2014 6:44:41 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: MD Expat in PA

My nephew died at 3 mos...HIS mom loved running around and exposing that kid to all and sundry before he was strong enough to bear it.

The ones THAT small scare me to death... I don’t want to be near them because they catch everything... they should be home until they are in the clear and not out exposed to everyone and everything the instant mom leaves the hospital. STAY home and make a home... there will be time to hit the road LATER.


48 posted on 08/19/2014 7:15:49 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: hopespringseternal
“Often baby doesn’t cooperate with the effort to cover up and tosses the cover off or refuses to nurse while covered”

I've learned that if I always use a blanket to nurse, even when alone, the baby gets used to the routine.

49 posted on 08/19/2014 7:27:16 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: SoFloFreeper

“because customers complained” The tribe had spoken. Mom was kinda ruining the dining experience for everyone else.


50 posted on 08/19/2014 7:47:53 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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