Skip to comments.Breast-feeding moms stage nurse-in at Oregon restaurant
Posted on 08/19/2014 4:47:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Dozens of mothers staged a nurse-in at an Oregon restaurant in protest on Sunday after a manager asked one woman to cover up while she nursed her baby.
Erin Klein said a manager at the Ram Restaurant in Happy Valley asked her to cover up as she nursed her 11-month-old, because other customers had apparently complained....
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Look, I really don't care if a mom breastfeeds her child....but making a spectacle about it is STUPID.
American women have NO modesty. In the third world, where everything is different and there are no facilities which accommodate this, of course they still do this in public.
It is NOT necessary here, and people who do it are just using their child to get attention! Not wholesome.
Just waiting for the ‘No Lactose, No Peace’ signs to start being deployed ....
Thread is pointless w/o pics...
It may be about getting attention or it may be about the complete dismissal of manners and decorum in our society in general.
They are just trying to express themselves.
Marcy: Breast-feeding is a normal, biological function.
Al: So is peeing, but you don't see me doing it.
Good heavens woman! Nobody wants to see your bare breasts,is that why you insist on flopping them out in public?
I don’t understand what is so onerous about covering while nursing.
Likely ugly, composting leg and underarm hair liberal women.
This is modern America.
This is also the era of selfies, posting videos of people doing dumb things on U-Tube, facebook, reality shows....
We are a society that craves attention
Too broad a statement - there are times when it is totally appropriate, but the woman should have the sense to use a little bit of discretion by minimizing the display. Breast feeding is best for most children and we ca't expect Moms to have their every action planned out so it never occurs in public. When done properly, it can actually help instill a sense of modesty in youngsters who observe it. Not every action which bares a part of a woman is an immodest/immoral/depraved action and we do no favors by trying to pretend that nature is not what it is. You can't teach a person responsible respect for sexuality by putting up an impenetrable shield.
Just waiting for the No Lactose, No Peace signs to start being deployed ....
...the other customers are probably thinking ‘thanks for the mammaries...’
those women need to stay out of restaurants and do their grazing at home..
Right. MY mother raised two of us with NEVER a need for doing this kind of thing in a public place.
If it’s a problem, maybe mom ought to stay home with her child until it ISN’T a problem.
Of course, mothers now days wouldn’t DREAM of staying home to care for their children... they’re all over the place... I have even seen young moms out shopping with what look to be newborns babies... What ? You can’t stay home even a couple weeks?
There is no excuse for whipping out her boob(s) in public for all to see.
“Thread is pointless w/o pics...”
There was a picture of the offended cow at the WP site. Believe me...the original FR poster of this thread did you a favor by NOT displaying that pic.
You know you bring up an interesting point. In communities, let’s say like the Amish, nursing a baby is part of the culture. Most likely, however, you would never see an Amish woman nursing her baby in a restaurant though. But in our world, nursing is not necessarily the general rule. There are still plenty of women who bottle feed their babies. So, it always seemed to me to not be so much a standard practice, but a statement of some kind. Because of this I , too, get the feeling there is a lot of attention seeking going on.
The babies’ heads are always in the way.
Same thing happened at one of the big malls down in Miami Florida. Someone was asked to be discrete....and all hell broke loose.
You’re being udderly ridiculous.
Ah yes, the mammary mafia. Don’t you dare suggest that the sight of a woman breastfeeding her child in public is in any way vulgar or you’ll be reminded what a beautifully maternal and nurturing thing it is .. and don’t you forget it, you gynophobic pig!
Dear people with mammary glands. It is no more natural and appropriate for you to wave you bare boobs around in public because a baby is hungry, than it is for me to wave my penis around because I have to pee. If I had to pee in public, I would turn my back and face a tree or bush.
There is an article of clothing that serves the nursing mother quite well, it is called a shawl. You can nurse your baby anywhere, as my wife did, and not be putting on a show at the same time. It can be thin and light as silk.
There is nothing magical that makes a boob less of a boob when you are nursing with it. If you wouldn’t put them on display when you aren’t nursing, then don’t put them on display when you are nursing.
IMHO, there is a type of woman who is an attention hound and turns weddings and motherhood into a theatrical productions. I’ve never heard of anyone having an issue with a modest woman who was nursing a baby.
I suspect that these are the same mothers who think it appropriate to change their baby’s dirty diapers in the middle of restaurants.
They do it to get attention but if you look, they get mad.
Somewhat related ...
Last week, a pizza joint in Spring ordered a mother and her three children to leave after the woman changed her 4-month-old baby's poopy diaper at their table.
The woman said she had no option because the restaurant's ladies room didn't have a changing table and she "didn't want to take everyone back to the minivan to do the diaper change."
Ah, poor baby and I mean the mother.
It made national news.
Olivia Wilde recently did this.
Olivia Wilde’s Breastfeeding Photo Causes a Stir
Discreteness is the key. My wife nursed all 7 of our children and simply covered up when it was necessary and we were in a public place. Little baby blanket was all it took. From 1983 through 2004. Never once had a complaint, but then she never showed anything. And there were plenty of restaurants, parks, planes and other inconvenient public places.
There are so many ways to nurse discreetly that to show your breast, you have to be trying to! I am completely in favor of breastfeeding, but not displaying breasts. Even away from home. I nursed in the Baltimore aquarium, the Smithsonian, the grocery store....No one ever knew!
I think the rule for nursing in restaurants is “no tips”.
Aaaaaaaaaaah! Good one!
Why does everyone have to protest something? Can't they just (wait for it) go with the flow? badumbum ting.
Something can be perfectly legal, natural, healthy, and still be very impolite around the dinner table. I can think of quite a number of things that fall into that general classification.
If I were a bliss-ninny drama queen fighting for the right to be inconsiderate and gross without eliciting honest criticism I’m sure I could snag some headlines by forcibly exposing diners in public to some of my natural rights.
Heifers with a cause. As if there isn’t enough cultural disintegration happening already, we get these obstinate young “heroes” tossing a lactose laden mammary across the folds of their ashen-white, postpartum guts while the rest of the properly clothed patrons try to enjoy an expensive meal. That’s great.
I’m a former breastfeeding Mom...
Cover up that boob you boob !!!!
and don’t feed your baby in public when you don’t have too..
arrange your day so that you are home or in private ...
Actually, I think it should have been criminalized for deliberatly cntaminating a food area. Can you imagine what would happen if a food worker stuck his hand in poop and then made your lunch?
I agree with you trebb. Breasts feed babies. I’m sorry if people are offended by a mother breastfeeding her baby in public...then maybe they should leave.
Seriously, we are a very modest family, but breastfeeding is THE most important thing you can do for your child. If we are out to dinner and my grandson needs to eat, my daughter is NOT going to go sit in a dirty bathroom stall to feed him. So she feeds him at the table. My grandson will pull off the blanket every time she puts it up. People see less of her breast when she is feeding him then they see from the cheerleaders when they watch Monday Night Football.
I raised my daughters very modest, no bikinis, shorts to their knees, no belly shirts, etc. My daughters still dress that way. Breast feeding in public is not about not being modest, it’s about using the breast for what GOD DESIGNED THEM FOR!
Okay, just my two cents. This topic makes me crazy.
NO OUTSIDE FOOD.
Of course, mothers now days wouldnt DREAM of staying home to care for their children... theyre all over the place... I have even seen young moms out shopping with what look to be newborns babies... What ? You cant stay home even a couple weeks?
Wow. The horrors you must have to dealt with in seeing newborns in public. Does it (seeing a newborn baby) give you nightmares? Do you suffer from PTSD from seeing a newborn in public?
Are you also of the opinion that pregnant women should confine themselves at home and out of the public once they start showing as used to be the norm way back when? And how old should a baby be before he or she should be taken out of the home for the first time? 4 weeks? Six months? A year? Not before they are eating solid foods and or potty trained, not before they are able to engage adults in polite conversation?
People used to believe that newborns were so fragile and so prone to exposure to picking up diseases that they were confined at home along with their moms for several months after birth. I remember a time when even family members and family friends were discouraged from coming to visit the new parents in those first few weeks and even from holding the newborn except in very sterile conditions.
But newborns, excepting for those who have certain medical conditions at birth or those who are preemies, in or just coming out of a NICU, actually have a very strong immune system, especially if their mother breastfeeds. And we used to think that keeping a newborn in an overly warm, dark, quiet room and, overly bundled up and away from all noise and all unnecessary stimulus and contact with anyone other than mom and dad for those first few weeks was a good thing. But stimulus and contact with other family members, even exposure to fresh air, even cold and heat, and sunshine has been proven to be good for newborn babies. There is no reason, excepting for those babies with compromised immune systems, that they should not be taken on shopping trips with mom. Personally I love seeing those amazing and beautiful newborns with their moms out in public. It does my heart good to see a stay at home mom going out in public while she is caring for her baby rather than giving her babys care over to strangers in a day care center while she goes to work.
I would also ask you if you think that menstruating women also confine themselves for 7 days and away from all men, not sit in places that men might sit until they are clean again and on the 8th day make a sacrifice of two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness. (Leviticus 15:19-30)? Of course back in the days of Leviticus, there probably werent any such thing as sanitary napkins and tampons so there were some very good reasons for those rules back when, except for the idea that a womans menstruation is sinful ..
Breastfeeding is not a problem that needs to be solved or dealt with like some sort of disease or as some sort of immoral act just because it involves boobs that others need to be shielded from just because some men only see boobs as a sexual organ. It is a perfectly natural and IMO a beautiful thing for a mother to breastfeed her baby. It is good for the baby and good for the mother, both emotionally and physically.
But I do agree that women who are breast feeding in public can and should be discrete about it.
Women who breastfeed their babies, even in public are doing nothing wrong IMO as long as they are not whipping out their bare boobs for all and everyone to see, without any sense of discretion and decorum or common decency and not trying to make a spectacle of themselves and their babies as some sort of political or feminist statement. But most of the breastfeeding moms Ive known dont fall into that category.
Like too, people demanding they bring their “comfort animal” into a restaurant/food store. I think those mom’s are just trying sensationalism.
Often baby doesn’t cooperate with the effort to cover up and tosses the cover off or refuses to nurse while covered.
Years ago, a guy I worked with had his infant with him...he went into a Starbucks to see if they could warm up the baby bottle....they refused, citing some health department regs.
“They are just trying to express themselves.”
(I see what you did there...)
When my youngest was two she had to urinate.
We were in Rite Aid. I asked to permit her to use the bathroom. They refused, and she started crying and wet herself, the cart she was sitting on and all the items in the cart. I was so angry that I still wont go in their lousy stores.
My nephew died at 3 mos...HIS mom loved running around and exposing that kid to all and sundry before he was strong enough to bear it.
The ones THAT small scare me to death... I don’t want to be near them because they catch everything... they should be home until they are in the clear and not out exposed to everyone and everything the instant mom leaves the hospital. STAY home and make a home... there will be time to hit the road LATER.
I've learned that if I always use a blanket to nurse, even when alone, the baby gets used to the routine.
“because customers complained” The tribe had spoken. Mom was kinda ruining the dining experience for everyone else.
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