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The real looting of Ferguson: its black citizens never had a chance to get by
The Manchester Guardian ^ | August 19, 2014 | Steven W. Thrasher

Posted on 08/19/2014 4:38:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The National Guard rolled in to protect a status quo. But racism set a status quo of inequality long before Michael Brown died.

The National Guard will essentially protect the legal looting of black people – much as it was protected when Missouri became the last slave state admitted to the union.

The symptoms of structural racism stain America everywhere, but its execution is particularly perverse in places like Ferguson. It’s not just that black drivers are stopped more often for alleged crimes than white drivers, despite the Missouri attorney general’s report that white people break the law more often. It’s not that Ferguson’s police force is 94% white in a town that’s two-thirds black. It’s not even, as Jeff Smith wrote in Monday’s New York Times, that black people–many unemployed– “do more to fund local government than relatively affluent whites” by way of those stops and the subsequent fines.

The real perversion of justice by way of modern American racism is that black people in Ferguson – like black people in the greater St Louis metropolitan area and nationally–are marginalized economically and physically from day one. That is the real looting of Ferguson.

We are consistently twice as likely to be unemployed – and in and near St Louis, “47 percent of the metro area’s African-American men between ages 16 and 24 are unemployed”. Our men are more likely to be convicted and our women are more likely to be evicted. We are more likely to be victims of predatory loans. Our children are twice as likely to have asthma (even before you teargas them). Our babies are twice as likely to die before the age of one–and their mothers are three or four times more likely to die as a result of bearing them....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: economy; ferguson; missouri; racism
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1 posted on 08/19/2014 4:38:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

N***** — please!


2 posted on 08/19/2014 4:47:40 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gag a maggot! What blind, self righteous claptrap!


3 posted on 08/19/2014 4:48:46 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...the Missouri attorney general’s report that white people break the law more often.”

I’d really like to know what he means by this. Does he mean there are more white people, so of course there are more white lawbreakers? Does it refer specifically to traffic laws?

The statistical truth, that blacks (or black men at least, but men in general are so vastly more criminal than women in genral I’m not sure it matters) commit crime in great disproportion to their population level, cannot be refuted.

It can be ignored, it can be obsfucated (which I take it is the attempt here by the MO AG), but it is a truth which all people, black, white and otherwise, know perfectly well.


4 posted on 08/19/2014 4:49:52 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had a wild thought the other day, and it sounded awful when I expressed it at work, but I think it’s true.....

Though slavery was so wrong and the treatment of blacks was terrible, it did actually give birth to them becoming citizens of the United States. Would they all rather be living in Africa today? Starvation, disease, no hope for anything in life other than an early and miserable death? Why not be grateful that your ancestor’s suffering caused you to live in a free nation, and rise up and take advantage of that, as many have.

I liken it to Israel, in a way. The holocaust was diabolical beyond compare. It did, however, give birth to the nation of Israel. Those people never forget the suffering of their families, and are grateful and thankful for their nation, and it shows. They moved forward, not whining, but building and improving.


5 posted on 08/19/2014 4:50:20 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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6 posted on 08/19/2014 4:52:20 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where’s the ‘Ebola-level Barf Alert’? lol


7 posted on 08/19/2014 4:52:52 AM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where do you begin? Absentee fathers lead to poverty-level childhoods, poor education outcomes lead to poor employment prospects lead to poor credit ratings lead to predatory lending. Whose fault is this?


8 posted on 08/19/2014 4:54:45 AM PDT by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All these idjits want to feel empowered, but for the wrong reasons and in the wrong ways. They never consider that taking care of one’s business in a mature, responsible, moral way might be the better avenue to success and a sense of self-accomplishment. To paraphrase an old Reagan comment about scariest words, “We’re from the government and we’re here to help you - you’re screwed!”


9 posted on 08/19/2014 4:55:51 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read Booker T Washington; ignore W.E.B. DuBois; ignore Cornell West...read Williams and Sowell...hopefully the young crowd will replace those who are in the “educated cliques where the mantra is, nothing has changed”.


10 posted on 08/19/2014 4:56:39 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (In Times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Becomes a Revolutionary Act.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

and, many black people have shown that as a culture they are incapable of surviving out of the villages from which they came.

A sizable portion of the black population has worked and succeeded at solid productive citizenship. A similarly sized portion of the same population is unable and unwilling to make the same transition.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 5:03:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
MAYBE if certain elements didn't act like demented children and burn, loot and pillage every time they didn't get their way, more businesses would set up shop and Ferguson's black citizens would have a chance to 'get by'.

(Not that that's ever going to happen)

12 posted on 08/19/2014 5:04:30 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pull the police and national Guard out, establish a perimeter around Ferguson, and let them run their city the way they see fit. Hopefully, there will be lots of video feeds and popcorn.


13 posted on 08/19/2014 5:06:58 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: jocon307
"...the Missouri attorney general’s report that white people break the law more often.”

...maliciously, and with malice of forethought driving 27 miles per hour in a zone posted for 25 miles per hour? Versus selling crack cocaine and doing a drive-by shooting?

That assertion is complete nonsense, more than half of all homicides in the United States are committed by black males -- who make up a small fraction of the US population.

14 posted on 08/19/2014 5:07:09 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Manchester Guardian?

Instead of banging the 150 year old “legacy of the slave state” gong here in the my country, shouldn’t you be decrying the right-now-today anti-Semitism that is running rampant in your own country Mr. Thrasher?


15 posted on 08/19/2014 5:14:16 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: JudyinCanada

Well said. Thank you.


16 posted on 08/19/2014 5:16:08 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks must be the most pathetic people on earth.


17 posted on 08/19/2014 5:16:55 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

what a mess


18 posted on 08/19/2014 5:17:32 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
We are consistently twice as likely to be unemployed – and in and near St Louis, “47 percent of the metro area’s African-American men between ages 16 and 24 are unemployed”.

And why do you suppose that is? Instead of playing the victim card...again...ask yourself what blacks have done on their own to bootstrap their lives. What we're seeing in Ferguson is clearly going to help lower unemployment rates there, right? Almost $2 trillion since the War on Poverty began and the GAO reported last year that poverty is worse now than ever. Lesson: Throwing money at their problem isn't going to change anything until they get the friggin' chip off their shoulder, quit playing the victim card, and show some self-discipline and initiative on solving their problem themselves, perhaps starting with lowering a 72% illegitimacy rate. All that money and what does society get in return: Ferguson, MO.

19 posted on 08/19/2014 5:19:22 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Sooth2222
When Jesse Jackson was debating gun control with Orin Hatch, flapping his mouth about how blacks are murdered at a rate that is 10 times that of whites, Hatch responded: "Mr. Jackson, if we removed the murders committed by black males between the ages of 18 and 29, the US would have a lower murder rate than Switzerland." The cameras swung to Jackson for his response...

...crickets...

20 posted on 08/19/2014 5:22:43 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush’s fault I suppose.


21 posted on 08/19/2014 5:27:08 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Procyon

The 7 to 10 trillion dollars spent on the “great society” hasn’t turned out to be a very wise investment.


22 posted on 08/19/2014 5:29:57 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I'd give a weeks pay to have cracka hater Steven Thrasher spend one day in Ferguson MO.
23 posted on 08/19/2014 5:31:20 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: econjack

I wonder if that encounter is on video?


24 posted on 08/19/2014 5:31:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: JudyinCanada
That's a wonderful thought.

But it won't sit well with those advocates of victimhood.

25 posted on 08/19/2014 5:33:20 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No one mentions people who goof off throughout years of free education, refuse to learn anything in the way of job skills, but are too good to do the jobs they qualify for.


26 posted on 08/19/2014 5:39:55 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
victims of predatory loans

keep your predatory loan protection with you always......just say no. But, it's predatory, so you really can't stop it.

27 posted on 08/19/2014 5:45:32 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: econjack

“... and show some self-discipline and initiative on solving their problem themselves, perhaps starting with lowering a 72% illegitimacy rate.”

And a nearly 50% illiteracy rate, higher yet if you only count black males.

When a culture accepts that, even knowing that it makes them unemployable, it’s a culture problem that only they can fix.

You can’t buy an education, you can pay for one but that has already been done. You can’t buy jobs for the illiterate.

The only thing left that society can do to help them is to do nothing for them. Work or starve, change your culture or you will shiver in the dark, cold and hungry.


28 posted on 08/19/2014 5:52:56 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: beef

Pull the police and national Guard out, establish a perimeter around Ferguson, and let them run their city the way they see fit

...my father, who disliked blacks since some childhood incidents, always said ‘give them their own state’...I thought that was nonsense, but not any more...

...what state shall we give them to run into the ground, and let them clean up themselves? My father said Mississippi, his WWII army maneuvers hellhole, but I don’t know...maybe just a terrritory, rather than a state...at any rate, it is clear that the races mixing and living in relative harmony just ain’t going to happen...


29 posted on 08/19/2014 5:55:47 AM PDT by IrishBrigade (')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe this racist can write some drivel about how many officers are killed by black youts per year? Uses the term execution to incite more violence.

Pray America wakes up


30 posted on 08/19/2014 5:59:07 AM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This town, depending on where you are getting your numbers, is between 52 and 64% black.

Fox News this morning interviewed their former Mayor who was white.

Can’t be too racist of the majority voted for him. Either that or most won’t get off the couch to go vote.


31 posted on 08/19/2014 6:01:31 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s Larry Elder’s take on one liberal lie... I wish someone would send Elder’s this drivil by Steven W. Thrasher

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/beyond_racebaiting_in_ferguson.html

“I hear people talk about how the Ferguson Police Department does not represent the city. So what? Are you saying that because the city has a certain racial composition you therefore can’t represent the people? If that’s the argument, the logical extension is Obama should never be president because black people are just thirteen percent of the country. That’s ridiculous...”

And Jason Riley:

“The real difficulty is not getting shot by other black people if you are a young black man in these neighborhoods…Cops are not the problem. Cops are not producing these black bodies in the morgues every week-end in Chicago, New York and Detroit and so forth.”


32 posted on 08/19/2014 6:03:10 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Looted store owners in Ferguson should to sue the city. They paid for police protection - got none)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I saw someone the other day post “Uyghur, please!”

Seriously, do they NEVER examine their culture to see why it promotes an 80% bastardity rate, 50% of the violent crimes with 12% of the population, and absolutely no work ethic?


33 posted on 08/19/2014 6:06:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jocon307

“...the Missouri attorney general’s report that white people break the law more often.”

I’m a white person and have been recently convicted twice for breaking the law. Talking on a cell phone while driving in California. The problem with statistical data is that garbage in gives you garbage out.


34 posted on 08/19/2014 6:09:03 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama has proven he has no concept of how to handle the situation, because in fact he refuses to recognize the real problem.

The price of creating a dependent class is the destruction of family and community.

This Godless culture has no sense of right or wrong.

Until God is back in our lives and Fathers are back in their homes and the private sector is free to create real jobs, there is no environment for meaningful education and self-sufficiency.


35 posted on 08/19/2014 6:11:57 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Missouri became the last slave state admitted to the union ... in 1821.

Seems this author's pretty sketchy on his history. I can name him Arkansas (1836), Texas, and Florida (both 1845).
36 posted on 08/19/2014 6:12:53 AM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy ... Flippancy is the best of all.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So we’ll go all Somalia on them ....


37 posted on 08/19/2014 6:32:56 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Procyon

LBJ and the democraps.


38 posted on 08/19/2014 6:33:28 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Altura Ct.

They are angry that Muslims are competing for that spot and are trying to get back at #1.


39 posted on 08/19/2014 6:34:39 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: econjack

That out on YouTube somewhere?

If not, it should be.


40 posted on 08/19/2014 6:46:38 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d like to say cry me a river but I know what they are talking about with the traffic stops although I don’t think it is because they are black. The police need revenue and young people are easy targets.

Around here they target young people or maybe just older vehicles, the fines are outrageous and the poorer kids can’t pay them so they think if they ignore them they will go away. In the cities they impound their cars and they can’t afford to get them back and soon they lose their licenses. The seat belt tickets alone are over $100 bucks!

The seatbelt thing really boils my blood, they ignore speeders but are obsessive about seat belts because it is easy money. Another thing, and I know they just use it as probable cause to stop people is the license plate light, some thing I didn’t even know existed until a kid I knew got a ticket for it about 20 years ago, they give them out when they have absolutely nothing else to cite them for.

All the while real crime is ignored while the police protect us from those seat belt scofflaws.


41 posted on 08/19/2014 6:55:32 AM PDT by tiki
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To: tanknetter

I remember watching it on live TV and it was many years ago. I’ve looked and I can’t find it anywhere.


42 posted on 08/19/2014 7:01:12 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: IrishBrigade

I live just fine in “Racial Harmony” with people of all races, my black friends who served with me are probably not going to move to your new black-only “territory”; but they’ll still defend your right to espouse such nonsense


43 posted on 08/19/2014 7:01:14 AM PDT by IAmNotAnAnimal (2/75 Army Ranger Retiree - Go Swamp Dogs!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In general black african-americans have a different culture... and unfortunitly it’s not a culture that leads anywhere good.

If they had a good culture that taught responsibility we wouldn’t have this “crisis” today...


44 posted on 08/19/2014 7:19:05 AM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost (Real men scare liberals)
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To: Altura Ct.

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Blacks must be the most pathetic people on earth.
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

No. They aren’t. People can say that Americans are the most pathetic people on earth because “we” elected him, twice. But I never elected him. I doubt any freepers elected him either. The squeaky wheel gets the attention and when it starts riots it gets attention 24/7. But all the decent black people out there don’t deserve to be dismissed in a blanket statement.


45 posted on 08/19/2014 7:38:47 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This sensitivity to racism is way over the top, and beyond ridiculous.


46 posted on 08/19/2014 7:41:46 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: ransomnote

“But all the decent black people out there don’t deserve to be dismissed in a blanket statement.”

So very true. I often think if I were black, with a great family, career and living the dream, how furious I would be with my race. I would also be embarrassed with the performance of our first black president. He had a duty, and a responsibility to advance his race, by making sure everything he did would reflect positively. Instead, he became the typical black stereotype.


47 posted on 08/19/2014 7:48:38 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Toespi

He really let black people down. A real leader would have conducted himself with an eye toward making people proud. But it was never about serving people for him - it was always him him him him. So instead of acting presidential, he embarrasses himself on the international stage, says things like “wee wee’d up” and makes a point of behaving unpresidential. Can’t really tell their children they hope they grow up to be just like the president, can they? But...but...he got a Nobel Prize!


48 posted on 08/19/2014 8:08:41 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cry me a river. As pointed out before a free society where people realize their potential can only exist if the people are intelligent. Most African folks cannot function in a free society because they lack the intelligence to do so.

I wonder what it would be like to live in the Central African Republic?


49 posted on 08/19/2014 8:15:18 AM PDT by CodeJockey
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To: beef

Pull the police and national Guard out, establish a perimeter around Ferguson, and let them run their city the way they see fit. Hopefully, there will be lots of video feeds and popcorn.”

Exactly right. Let them get their own police and shopkeepers so they are not bothered by the white man.


50 posted on 08/19/2014 10:14:08 AM PDT by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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