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IRS Tech Said Lerner's Hard Drive WASN'T Damaged
Fox Nation ^ | 15 Aug 2014 | Patrick Howley

Posted on 08/15/2014 4:31:47 PM PDT by mandaladon

U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan Thursday ordered the Internal Revenue Service to come up with new answers after IRS employees contradicted sworn testimony about damage to Lois Lerner’s hard drive.

Sullivan ruled that “the IRS is hereby ORDERED to file a sworn Declaration, by an official with the authority to speak under oath for the Agency, by no later than August 22, 2014″ on four issues: the IRS’ attempted recovery of Lerner’s lost emails after her computer allegedly crashed, bar codes that could have been on the hard drive, IRS policies on hard drive destruction, and information about an outside vendor who worked on IRS hard drives.

Recent documents from nonprofit group Judicial Watch’s Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the IRS, which Sullivan is presiding over, showed that IRS technology officials contradicted sworn testimony about damage to Lerner’s hard drive.

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1 posted on 08/15/2014 4:31:48 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

What about the server? What about the backups? What about Koskinen saying the data was on a disaster recovery tape but it was “too difficult” to retrieve?


2 posted on 08/15/2014 4:36:24 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: mandaladon

However it comes out, we MUST cut their budget by 50%.

They screamed about the $1 billion cut, down from $14 billion, annually.

OBVIOUSLY it’s not enough —not nearly.


3 posted on 08/15/2014 4:37:15 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mandaladon

Right after all this, they get the huge promotion to manage all of Obamacare?

That’s like rushing MOAB’s and personal A-bombs to all officers in Ferguson.


4 posted on 08/15/2014 4:40:14 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: mandaladon

Bump


5 posted on 08/15/2014 4:41:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: mandaladon

What happens if the IRS doesn’t comply? The Regime has become very expert at stonewalling and delaying. Officials need to be picked up and put in jail to force compliance, but how will a judge force that?


6 posted on 08/15/2014 4:42:04 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: mandaladon

oops!


7 posted on 08/15/2014 4:43:15 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian

lots more 5th amendment up ahead during the criminal trials


8 posted on 08/15/2014 4:43:57 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Truth29

A Judge can hold the relevant officials in contempt and jail them indefinitely.


9 posted on 08/15/2014 4:45:02 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Truth29

contempt and incarceration


10 posted on 08/15/2014 4:45:07 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Lurker

5 seconds, nod to you


11 posted on 08/15/2014 4:45:41 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Truth29

Obama will declare “executive privilege” and the problem will go away.


12 posted on 08/15/2014 4:46:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Lurker

A Judge can hold the relevant officials in contempt and jail them indefinitely.
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They’re not afraid of 2 years and a pardon in a country club.


13 posted on 08/15/2014 4:49:58 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: mandaladon

No later than August 22? Why not today - NOW?

That just gives them time to ‘figure something out’, so to speak.


14 posted on 08/15/2014 4:50:13 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: mandaladon

No later than August 22? Why not today - NOW?

That just gives them time to ‘figure something out’, so to speak.


15 posted on 08/15/2014 4:50:13 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: mandaladon

“the IRS is hereby ORDERED to file a sworn Declaration, by an official with the authority to speak under oath for the Agency, by no later than August 22,”

Imagine being the IRS official who gets that call, “We have an assignment for you...”.


16 posted on 08/15/2014 5:01:54 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!")
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To: mandaladon

I see some of the Obama IRS people don’t want to tempt the judge as they may end up in jail. Things appear to happen when they piss off the judge so he gives the OBot scofflaws no where to go.


17 posted on 08/15/2014 5:03:11 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: mandaladon

If my computer fails, I can go to any computer, anywhere or a smart phone and access my email account.


18 posted on 08/15/2014 5:03:21 PM PDT by granite (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left - Ecclest 10:2)
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To: mandaladon; Admin Moderator

There’s nothing in the article that supports the statement in the headline. What’s up with that?


19 posted on 08/15/2014 5:11:23 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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20 posted on 08/15/2014 5:14:53 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: mandaladon

Oddly, on my government computer, I was able to have our IT guys retrieve an email a week after I deleted it.

I’m pretty sure government emails are archived somewhere.


21 posted on 08/15/2014 5:17:56 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Real Cynic No More
There’s nothing in the article that supports the statement in the headline. What’s up with that?

The hard drive where that particular paragraph was stored experienced a crash, and the four sentences you are looking for are now impossible to recover.

22 posted on 08/15/2014 5:38:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: Lurker

And it sounds like this judge has had enough......


23 posted on 08/15/2014 5:40:12 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: mandaladon

I can’t say this is any more than speculation, but does any one find it odd that the Post Office is reporting a 2 billion loss in the first quarter?

Could this administration be transferring funds from one entity to another? Using the money to continue to obfuscate?


24 posted on 08/15/2014 5:46:18 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: granite
"If my computer fails, I can go to any computer, anywhere or a smart phone and access my email account."

That may be true for you, but it is not necessarily the case for everyone. It depends upon the email client you use and its configuration.

I use several different email clients, some of which are web-based and some of which use POP or IMAP configurations. The POP client, through my choice, is set-up so that the mail is DOWNLOADED to the local machine on which the client is run, and DELETED from the server. This means that I cannot go to any computer, anywhere or a smart phone and read the messages that have already been downloaded & deleted.

In most cases, I can access my email account from another computer or smart-phone via a browser-based email interface, but email previously downloaded and deleted from the server will not be available in the mailbox. No-can-do. Simple as that.

This, of course, doesn't address situations where the client is configured to leave a copy on the server, or the possibility of retrieving messages from a backup tape.

And, of course, it has nothing to do with Lerner and the IRS, which almost certainly was bound-by-law to have backups. It's only meant to illustrate that there are many variables involved, and your situation isn't necessarily pertinent to the way someone else's email handling systems operate.

25 posted on 08/15/2014 5:48:24 PM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: Lurker

I’d rather the Judge declare that if the IRS refuses to obey the law, he sees no reason Americans have to obey the IRS and declare a tax holiday until the IRS complies.

He’d never do it, but still, it’s a nice thought.


26 posted on 08/15/2014 6:03:29 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: mandaladon

You mean officials appointed by and serving at the leisure of the regime.. Lied??

I’m shocked. Just shocked!! Not.


27 posted on 08/15/2014 6:05:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: henkster

Oh but if he did... the people would crown him king.


28 posted on 08/15/2014 6:10:20 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: granite

Well said...


29 posted on 08/15/2014 6:14:20 PM PDT by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common-Law Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: mandaladon

It only gets better when we end the IRS.


30 posted on 08/15/2014 6:14:37 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

he would never pick up a tab around me!


31 posted on 08/15/2014 6:19:08 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: 1010RD

Any country that isn’t godly will end up in the same kind of morass. Huge taxing bureaucracy.


32 posted on 08/15/2014 6:20:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: mandaladon

Finally an order mentioning mobile devices.
Her BlackBerry is not on Herr hard drive, it immediately implies server access.


33 posted on 08/15/2014 6:23:46 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: mandaladon
contempt, obstruction, conspiracy, tampering, and now perjury.

Lois is gonna be gone for a long time!

34 posted on 08/15/2014 6:24:21 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Paulie
That just gives them time to ‘figure something out’, so to speak.

And to perjure themselves further.

This could all be getting really good, really soon.

FReegards!

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35 posted on 08/15/2014 6:53:31 PM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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To: mandaladon

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36 posted on 08/15/2014 6:57:11 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a weapon...eh? "Bathhouse" 0'Mullah? d8-)
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To: mandaladon

It’ll take a while but they’re gonna get Lois...


37 posted on 08/15/2014 6:57:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (Just remember, loot the liberals' houses, they don't have guns. - Freeper dfwgator)
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To: mandaladon

I imagine an IRS bathroom attendant will get a citation in 2045 at the rate this is going.


38 posted on 08/15/2014 7:08:21 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Truth29

If they don’t comply I’m pretty sure they get bonuses. ..


39 posted on 08/15/2014 7:23:12 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Neidermeyer
"They’re not afraid of 2 years and a pardon in a country club."

Your observation is why crimes committed by public officials should be automatically raised to a capital offence.

Imagine a court clerk facing a firing squad for pocketing a fifty dollar fine. We'd either have more honest public servants, or MUCH more clever thieves.

40 posted on 08/15/2014 10:05:30 PM PDT by jonascord (Laeti vescimur nos subacturis)
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To: jonascord
Imagine a court clerk facing a firing squad for pocketing a fifty dollar fine. We'd either have more honest public servants, or MUCH more clever thieves.
Great system . . . it worked so well in the USSR . . .

</sarcasm>


41 posted on 08/16/2014 12:54:56 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: mandaladon

Ruh Roh....


42 posted on 08/16/2014 12:57:25 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: DJ Frisat; granite

DJFrisat,

Good analysis and information!

Question:

Did -all- the hard drives of the people who -sent- email to Lois crash??

(I don’t think so... )


43 posted on 08/16/2014 3:27:44 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Vendome
"If they don’t comply I’m pretty sure they get bonuses. .."

That is probably not a joke, plus with the DOJ a criminal enterprise, I wonder if the judge really has the power to arrest anyone for non compliance. If the government is lawless, then it be comes that old truism of the judge and what army?

44 posted on 08/16/2014 4:13:43 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

“I can’t say this is any more than speculation, but does any one find it odd that the Post Office is reporting a 2 billion loss in the first quarter?

Could this administration be transferring funds from one entity to another? Using the money to continue to obfuscate?”

I am sure that is what as referred to as Obama’s stash and it does not surprise me that this lawless regime would do just that.

I am sure that they are transferring funds from one agency to another illegally and am sure they will not stop unless a judge builds his own army and stops them. The only evidence I have that this is going on is their total disregard for the law, they, like all bullies, only respect power.

In short, you are right on the money.


45 posted on 08/16/2014 4:21:06 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: WildHighlander57
"Did -all- the hard drives of the people who -sent- email to Lois crash??"

My personal belief is that they are lying from A-to-Z about this, and it's a criminal coverup far exceeding anything that the Nixon gang ever contemplated. When I worked for a major corporation, my PC and unix box were backed up NIGHTLY, and I was just a peon.

To contend that high IRS (and other gov't agencies) mucky-mucks don't have strict backup requirements and that anything on them can be tragically, accidentally 'permanently lost', strains credulity and insults intelligence.

46 posted on 08/16/2014 4:38:14 AM PDT by DJ Frisat (Proudly providing the NSA with provocative textual content since 1995!)
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To: DJ Frisat

Agree about the coverup.

The big hole in their lie is that there are more than one hard drive involved, plus the servers/backup... the info IS there.


47 posted on 08/16/2014 5:10:53 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Organic Panic

All IMHO: If he declares executive privilege, he tacitly admits there were conversations he was privy to which included info on the tape. That would be an admission the charges are true that is the IRS was doing political work. Anyway, such a privilege would not stand up and he would be ordered to make them available putting him at personal risk. While he cannot be charged with any criminal violations except treason while President, I don’t think that extends to civil and administrative matters as demonstrated by the continued attacks on Nixon about the IRS deductions he took for donating of his papers. I love to see our “constitutional professor” hoisted on his own petard over some constitutional issue where in he gets it shoved.


48 posted on 08/16/2014 7:01:25 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: mandaladon

The budget for the IRS needs to be Zero’d. While their at it, I can think of a long list of other federal agencies and programs that also need to have their budgets turned into a Zero.

The Congress *CAN* do all of the above, but don’t. Instead, they sit back and complain about things just like the rest of us, as if they are bystanders. Sort of like the “Rush Theorem”, but applied to Congress....


49 posted on 08/16/2014 8:54:25 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: mandaladon

Lois Lerner must go to jail or there is no justice.


50 posted on 08/16/2014 9:00:36 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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