[dfwgator]

Kill It!

[markomalley]

Will Erdogan's Presidency End NATO As We Know It?

Depends upon how dhimmified Øbøzø and the Euroweenies are. If they bow to Sultan Erdogan's wishes, he'll stay in for a while (until it comes time for the New Ottoman Empire to re-conquer Greece and the Balkans). Otherwise, they'll be out in a year.

[Billthedrill]

Americans will no doubt recall that Turkey's refusal to support the U.S. and NATO in the 2003 war against Iraq's Saddam Hussein.

This American remembers that very, very well. BTT

[Truth29]

"Given Erdogan's radical reorientation of Turkey's foreign policy and his creeping Islamist rule, the broader point is that his country no longer belongs in NATO. It won't be long before the U.S. and its allies come to the same conclusion."

I doubt that Obama will reach that conclusion. He would love an Islamist state in NATO and a dagger in the heart of what remains of a secular or Christian Europe. More death and destruction for the West he so despises.

[Salvey]

He fundamentally transformed Turkey.

[SkyDancer]

I thought Turkey is part of SEATO ...

[cherry]

," "Turkey is morphing into a Russian-style 'shell' democracy, in which managed plebiscites mask the essentially autocratic character of a system containing few or no checks and balances." Well said and accurate, but it doesn't go far enough."

sounds like "us"....

[jazusamo]

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[Rashputin]

Koxovo ended NATO as it was created to be.

Just what is, "as we know it", right now so the question posed can be answered?

[odds]

"Turkey has for decades been a key ally to the U.S. and NATO in the Mideast, an anchor in the Cold War against the USSR and friendly toward Israel as the Jewish state was attacked repeatedly by its Arab neighbors."

I think the answer lies in that paragraph. NATO was essentially set up in response to the Warsaw Pact, am I right?

The geopolitics of the ME and N. Africa changed dramatically with the fall of the USSR. And, Erdogan is no moderate; he is an Islamist. Erdogan has been trying to revamp the Turkish (secular) constitution and diminish the influence of the Turkish military, which traditionally is very secular.

[NormsRevenge]

This guy is as dirty as the night is long.

[Jet Jaguar]

Active Duty ping.

[expat2]

Now, as the Independent newspaper of Britain asserts, "Turkey is morphing into a Russian-style 'shell' democracy, in which managed plebiscites mask the essentially autocratic character of a system containing few or no checks and balances."

That sounds familiar somehow.... Can't think why it would. /s

[sarasmom]

The NATO defense treaties and EU economic alliances are total contradictions to each other.

It’s well past time that the USA openly acknowledge this, and gracefully but firmly withdraw from NATO.

We could secure our own land borders in less than 30 days, with less than a quarter of the manpower we currently waste on securing our supposed allies borders.

[Jim Noble]

NATO “as we know it” hasn’t existed for years.

[MasterGunner01]

NATO has been dead for years. The Euros keep it around because it gives them an illusion of a capable military force, but the reality is it was the Americans who did the heavy lifting for everyone else. The Euros militaries are mostly hollow shells that have been gutted to feed their respective countries’ welfare states. Today's NATO is like an old boys’ social club.