Ukraine crisis: the neo-Nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists

UK Telegraph ^ | 8-11-2014 | Tom Parfitt

[tcrlaf]

“The moves in the last couple of weeks have fallen apart from both a lack of coordination, and a lack of follow-on supply.”

To add to this, here is the question none of the Pro-Kiev’rs DARE to answer.

Why are the Private Militia’s, and the Nat Guard not answerable to the Military chain of command?? They demand and get assets the UK Army should be getting, and fall under the command of the Nazi Parubiy, and not the generals.

[caww]

Official statement of red cross regarding joint efforts of Russia, Eu and all other parties in humanitarian effort...apparently these conditions have been agreed on and met:

[tcrlaf]

Are you again trying to deny the facts in Evidence?

[1rudeboy]

How about you answer my question, first.

[tcrlaf]

“all parties must also guarantee...”

And therein lies the problem, IMO.

[tcrlaf]

I did...
You just didn’t like the answer.
That isn’t my problem.

[1rudeboy]

Uh, your "answer" was a question. Nice try.

[Boogieman]

“our Putana yells NAZI like a Libtard yells RASCIST.”

That may be true, but just because someone cries wolf does not mean the real wolves don’t exist.

[caww]

....”do they have enough strength left to push the Rebels out of a city that size”.....

I don’t think they would now push this if they didn’t know those remaining were weakened enough to pull it off. Reality says they will likely go forward but it will not come easily.

I suspect they’re going to use massive air and fire power once the majority of the citizens are out......which of course was the intentions when Kiev refused to negotiate and began using heavy fire power. It’s been an ethnic cleansing no matter how you want to call it. ..... most can now see that was the intentions thus eliminating the divisions in the country...and or any future debate of splitting the country.

It’s a disgusting show of ‘force’...against what was once their own citizens.

[caww]

Will see how it plays...but I don’t see Russia using this to take Ukraine by any means....Putin never wanted it.

I think the International leaders agreed that the corridors be opened to get as many out as possible and then flatten the area. Thereafter have humanitarian efforts ready to go in, which is exactly how this is shaping up. But I don’t think they ever anticipated the degree of resistance faced in the first place.

I will say this won’t be the end of it.....Kiev is a far cry from bringing peace to Ukraine....the Oligarchs are done yet...and of course the Int’l. Corporations waiting on the sidelines will go in and build up the EAst...while Kiev funnels revenues through their Government from the IMF.

[tcrlaf]

Now THIS is interesting.. Even more interesting is that it is being reported by a Ukrainian TV outlet! 24 Mechanized Brigade, which is currently at the station in Zaporizhzhya, NSU does not apply to In Kiev railway station fighters 24 Mechanized Brigade (Yavoriv) staged a mutiny. 24 brigade is not part of the National Guard of Ukraine. This was reported by the press service of the National Guard. "Refute information: revolt of the National Guard soldiers do not. Command of the National Guard of Ukraine officially denies appeared this morning in some media reports about the" riot fighters the National Guard "in Kiev. Also note that the fighters 24 Mechanized Brigade, which said in a statement, are not included in of the NSU, "- said in a statement. Meanwhile, according to local media reports in Zaporizhia / Railway station 24 crew mutinied. Cause of the riot is the reluctance of personnel, the sample in the area of ​​fighting for 53 days and sent to re-form and retrofitting in Chuguyiv, and from there back to the front. Soldiers are located on the platforms of the platform and are in talks with the military command. In turn, in Kiev this morning, under the walls of the Ministry of Defense held a picket. The protesters demanded the rotation and leave for 24 Brigade fighters. http://112.ua/avarii-chp/bunta-sredi-boycov-nacgvardii-net-24-brigada-v-sostav-ngu-ne-vhodit-komandovanie-99829.html Is this the same 24th that was trapped in the South Pocket for two months?

[Kozak]

Funny, considering your handle.

[McGruff]

Here's another strategic target taken out

[palmer]

So here we have Russian Nazis fighting Russian Nazis.

I doubt that is complete. The biggest source of Nazism in Ukraine comes from nationalism spurred by anti-EU sentiment. Mostly we have nationalists on the Ukrainian side fighting nationalists on the Russian side. The Nazis on either side are probably much more an exception than a rule. But it would make more sense for Nazis in Ukraine to be against Kiev since Kiev is for EU integration.