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Evidence that guns deter: “Knockout game” attacker asks victim if he is armed before hitting him
Crime Prevention Research Center ^ | August 10, 2014 | CPRC

Posted on 08/10/2014 10:59:14 AM PDT by richardb72

The Florida Times-Union points to how guns deter in an attack on a man on Neptune Beach:

"The victim told police that he believed the boys were playing the “knockout game.” He said he was approached on the beach by one of the boys who asked him if he had a “Glock.” The man was punched after admitting that he was unarmed.

"Fearing that the boy would continue to hit him until he was unconscious, the man grabbed at a folding knife that he had tucked into his waistband and pretended to have a gun. The boys fled, and the man enlisted the help of his neighbor to search for the boys."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; cprc; crime; florida

1 posted on 08/10/2014 10:59:14 AM PDT by richardb72
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So one should reply “No” if armed?


2 posted on 08/10/2014 11:00:35 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
So one should reply “No” if armed?

And conversely, should one reply “yes” if unarmed?

3 posted on 08/10/2014 11:03:09 AM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: richardb72

Nope, I have a CZ75....


4 posted on 08/10/2014 11:03:49 AM PDT by mylife
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To: richardb72

The next time someone asks if you are armed, you say “Yes.”


5 posted on 08/10/2014 11:04:30 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: richardb72
He said he was approached on the beach by one of the boys who asked him if he had a “Glock.”

No, son, I don't have a Glock.

...Bang!....It's a Beretta.

6 posted on 08/10/2014 11:04:40 AM PDT by seowulf (Cogito cogito, ergo cogito sum. Cogito.---Ambrose Bierce)
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To: richardb72

“boys”.

Sure media.


7 posted on 08/10/2014 11:05:49 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: seowulf
No, son, I don't have a Glock.

...Bang!....It's a Beretta.

Good one. Alternatively: "No, but will a Beretta do? Bang!"

8 posted on 08/10/2014 11:07:18 AM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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That's one 40 SW for you and 11 of your ahole buddies.


9 posted on 08/10/2014 11:08:35 AM PDT by mylife
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To: lightman

In the spirit of the “game”, I’m now thinking “Maybe”.


10 posted on 08/10/2014 11:09:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: richardb72

My answer would be: “To the teeth”. Next question.


11 posted on 08/10/2014 11:09:37 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: Gene Eric

Actually one should reply with “Are you a law enforcement officer? Because I do not answer questions from law enforcement without the presence of my attorney.”

So if it is an undercover cop, it establishes the fact that you wish to remain silent. If it is a street thug, it will confuse him.


12 posted on 08/10/2014 11:10:17 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: richardb72
The boys fled, and the man enlisted the help of his neighbor to search for the boys."

Fleeing thug: "Don' call me BOY!"

13 posted on 08/10/2014 11:12:19 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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14 posted on 08/10/2014 11:18:54 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: dfwgator

The next time someone asks if you are armed, you say “Guess” ;’)


15 posted on 08/10/2014 11:23:21 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: richardb72

Open carry would solve the problem. I’ll need to go shopping for a Speedo holster.


16 posted on 08/10/2014 11:27:10 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: richardb72

Should have hit the thug with with shurikens that had the tips soaked in the poison from a red back frog.

Then whacked him with nunchucks and ended him with a fee jabs of a katana...

You can fit all that in a bathing suit, right?


17 posted on 08/10/2014 11:31:29 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I say keep em guessing.


18 posted on 08/10/2014 11:31:42 AM PDT by mylife
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To: mylife

Beautiful pistol but too big for my hand. So I use a Browning Hi-Power.

Now I’ve found my HP is too valuable to shoot (Made in Belgium, 1968) so I picked me up a SAR version of the CZ 75. Polymer frame, thinner than the Cz and feels like a BHP! 9MM.


19 posted on 08/10/2014 11:36:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I love the CZ but am still kicking myself in the arse for not grabbing a factory refurbed alloy Browning HP for $350.

They were all gone in a week!


20 posted on 08/10/2014 11:41:55 AM PDT by mylife
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To: richardb72

Ray, when something asks if you are a god, the answer is yes.

When a punk asks if you have a glock, you say better than a glock, or do you feel lucky punk...well, do ya.


21 posted on 08/10/2014 11:46:05 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: richardb72

Assuming you are armed, and it is a one-to-one confrontation like this, there is a wild card that you might pull before your gun. It will light up his brain like a Christmas tree because of its unexpected nature, and could very well give him a powerful “flight” stimulus.

In an aggressive manner, use the ‘n’ word.

“What did you say to me, ‘n’?”

For a lot of black people, a white person using the ‘n’ word like that is a sign of exceptional danger. It is not a time to be offended, it is a time for them to run for their life, because the assumption is that the white person is homicidally dangerous.

While most people have been strongly conditioned to never use that word in public, it is far better, if possible, to use it instead of your gun.


22 posted on 08/10/2014 11:47:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Gene Eric
In the spirit of the “game”, I’m now thinking “Maybe”.

Come on the correct answer is "Do you feel lucky, Punk?"

23 posted on 08/10/2014 11:51:42 AM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: taxcontrol
“Are you a law enforcement officer? Because I do not answer questions from law enforcement without the presence of my attorney.” So if it is an undercover cop, it establishes the fact that you wish to remain silent. If it is a street thug, it will confuse him.

LOL - you're right - they might assume you're in the mob...

24 posted on 08/10/2014 11:53:03 AM PDT by GOPJ (If everything is terrorism, then nothing is terrorism - former senior FBI special agent David Gomez)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I lied,they were $495

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1FNHP-ALLOYR&name=RARE+Alloy+Frame+FN+%28Belgium%29+Hi+Power+9mm&groupid=6


25 posted on 08/10/2014 11:53:05 AM PDT by mylife
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
In an aggressive manner, use the ‘n’ word.

That's one method to distract and confuse. Mine would be to begin screaming at them "You won't get me! I'm not going down! I've killed two and what's another two!!". Act unhinged, draw attention from others in the area. The punks will withdraw. If not, then pull your knife and use it if they come closer.

26 posted on 08/10/2014 12:05:48 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: Vendome; All

I can fit a Springfield XDS .45 in a De Santis `sticky’ holster in the pocket of my shorts.
40” waist and I’m 200 lbs. but I think a smaller guy could swing it.
Wear suspenders, under a tee-shirt if you don’t want to look Amish, because it is heavy, unless you want that drooping trousers, `homeboy’ `whigger’ effect.

You can hammer 3/8” brass grommets into the waistband of your bluejeans, or a belt (you may have to flatten the belts attachment points first with a hammer on concrete), and use `cowboy suspenders’ with round spring-loaded hardware.
Or a lot simpler, Perry suspenders (Walmart) that clip onto your belt.
With your hand on the Springfield you can answer, “Maybe.”


27 posted on 08/10/2014 12:18:30 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: richardb72

I’d have taken the classic line from “Pulp Fiction” and asked him “where do I dump all the dead naggers?” (thank you South Park).


28 posted on 08/10/2014 1:03:18 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

“Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said “Dead N@gger Storage”?


29 posted on 08/10/2014 1:05:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator
“Did you notice a sign out in front of my house that said “Dead N@gger Storage”?

I was amazed that something like that got past all the Professional Victims, let alone the spineless studio execs. It was a howler.

30 posted on 08/10/2014 1:08:44 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: tumblindice

My leather jacket and my biker vest both have built in conceal carry pockets. I had trouble carrying my M&P 45 in the vest until I bought some closure extenders.


31 posted on 08/10/2014 1:14:59 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: richardb72

Pull the old Inspector Clouseau bit. If they ask if I have a Glock, respond in the negative. Should they then start something, shoot them with your non-Glock weapon. When they say “I thought you said you didn’t have a Glock”, then state, “It’s not a Glock” and walk away.


32 posted on 08/10/2014 1:53:37 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: JimRed
Fleeing thug: "Don' call me BOY--CRACKA!"

Fixed.

33 posted on 08/10/2014 2:00:34 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: Gene Eric

“do you really want to find out?”


34 posted on 08/10/2014 6:14:08 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

older blacks may think that way. younger ones will not and will proceed to engage.


35 posted on 08/10/2014 6:16:21 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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you’re here! finally! i’ve been waiting for you mofos all damn day!


36 posted on 08/10/2014 6:20:07 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
you’re here! finally! i’ve been waiting for you mofos all damn day!

Psychology. You got it. Don't act like the stereotype white guy they're expecting and really throw them off their game. It could save you from an altercation. Example: Barbara Billingsley in "Airplane!" movie as JiveLady. Or it could get you killed. But at least you'll have the element of surprise and can strike first if you think you'll die!

37 posted on 08/10/2014 7:16:11 PM PDT by roadcat
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