Obama’s Economy In Action! Data Shows Cash For Clunkers Was An Epic Debacle

The Daily Caller ^ | 8-10-14 | Eric Owens

[driftless2]

It is a given that any program designed by liberals to elevate the economy is doomed to failure. Virtually every program designed by liberals inevitably turns to dreck. And this program was basically thought up by an avowed Marxist, Van Jones. What could go wrong? (snicker)

[spokeshave]

And all the cars traded in were required to be destroyed

Yeah...and at a great environmental impact.

Lot of lead...plastics and waste oil mixed with silicon sand (that couldn't then be recycled)

[VanShuyten]

Thank you fellow FReepers. I got 4 grand for an 11 year old Ford Explorer, with 180,000 miles on it and a leaky head gasket among other problems, and bought a new Subaru Forester.

[fone]

afraidfortherepublic commented:
the fact that it removed a lot of 2nd hand cars from the marketplace that could have been used fo teenagers’ first cars, or job seekers.

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YES YES YES.
And all the cars traded in were required to be destroyed.
No more used car parts for the cars not traded in either.

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I have come across this problem several times the last few years, helping out different family members who just needed basic transportation -- can't find the parts to fix the old one, can't find something reliable on the cheap.

Just mention the phrase "cash for clunkers" to any auto mechanic and their eyes will roll, head will nod, and an almost imperceptible sigh, silently acknowledging the government really screwed the little guy with that policy.

[Balding_Eagle]

Obama had far greater insight than we give him credit for.

As it has turned out, those 2nd hand cars weren’t needed. There aren’t jobs to go to, and no money for kids to just drive around.

[Mean Daddy]

I have a friend who is very wiberal and a member of the GimmeDat party. I thanked him for underwriting the purchase of my 2009 Hyundai Accent. I picked up a bare bones model with stick, AC and AM/FM radio for around $5k!! I trade in a 96 Ford F150 that ran great, but sucked up the gas!!

[Luircin]

Well, I’m looking for a used car now because my new job requires it. And everything I see is so far out of my price range that it’d almost be cheaper to quit my job.

[lepton]

Yup...and according to Edmunds, it cost roughly $25k in subsidies per additional car purchased.

[nascarnation]

Don’t give Van-boy too much credit.
Euros/Canada/etc were doing this decades previous, LOL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrappage_program

[Tammy8]

Yes, many of the “klunkers” were decent cars that poor people could afford. So another unintended consequence was to take vehicles away from the poor that the liberals are supposed to be so concerned about.

[nascarnation]

Liberals want poor people (and everybody else except the one percenters) on public transportation.

And by various schemes, they’re working in that direction.

[nascarnation]

If I divide the $3 billion cost by the 690,000 vehicles scrapped in the program I get $4400.

Can you direct me to Edmunds’ math?

[lepton]

I said “per additional”. Most of the purchasers were already going to buy a car.

http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-archive/2009/10/cash-for-clunkers-tab-24000-per-vehicle-of-taxpayer-cash.html

“This summer’s so-called Cash for Clunkers program cost taxpayers $24,000 per vehicle sold, according to an analysis by Edmunds.com.
 
Nearly 690,000 vehicles were sold during the Cash for Clunkers program, officially known as the Car Allowance Rebate System (CARS), but Edmunds.com analysts indicate that only 125,000 of the sales were incremental. The rest of the sales would have happened anyway.

Analysts divided three billion dollars by 125,000 vehicles to arrive at the average $24,000 per vehicle sold. The average transaction price in August was $26,915 minus an average cash rebate of $1,667.”

[Chickensoup]

Cash for clunkers was part of the surveillance state.

Good bye to the independent car, hello to the black box cars that will watch and track you,

[dfwgator]

More like “Cash for Well-Connected Democratic Car Dealers.”

[lepton]

http://freakonomics.com/2009/11/02/lots-of-cash-for-clunkers/

(Lots of) Cash for Clunkers
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Edmunds.com reports that its statistical analysis of the Cash for Clunkers program finds that the program generated only 125,000 extra new vehicle sales, meaning that the cost to the U.S. government was $24,000 for each of those new cars.

The reason the cost per incremental car is so high is that, according to Edmunds.com’s modeling, 82 percent of the vehicles purchased under the program would have been bought this year anyway, even without the subsidy. So Cash for Clunkers mostly just turned out to be a gift from the government to people who happened to be in the market for a new car at the right time. The auto manufacturers and dealers did not end up getting a very big chunk of the money ultimately, although they did get paid earlier rather than later in the year.

Is this surprising? Not to an economist. It is relatively easy to move around the timing of when someone purchases a durable good, but much harder to affect whether they buy a durable good or not.

[nascarnation]

Thanks. Makes sense.