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1 posted on 08/08/2014 8:15:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Go away John.


2 posted on 08/08/2014 8:18:13 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Olog-hai

Seems very weird.

Just very weird.

I do not know.


3 posted on 08/08/2014 8:18:31 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Olog-hai

“it has progressed on human rights.”

from utterly brutal...to mildy brutal??


4 posted on 08/08/2014 8:19:07 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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To: Olog-hai

How about we cut off all Arms sales to all countries especially those in the Middle East????????


5 posted on 08/08/2014 8:20:22 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Olog-hai

America has a short memory.


7 posted on 08/08/2014 8:21:09 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Olog-hai
It should be limited at first to those defensive capabilities

And then move on up to offensive? Great idea, Juan.

Another day, another foot shoved deep into his mouth.

8 posted on 08/08/2014 8:21:35 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Olog-hai

“It should be limited at first to those defensive capabilities such as coast guard and maritime systems that are purely for external security,” he said.

Vietnam is having problems with China putting oil rigs in their waters.


10 posted on 08/08/2014 8:22:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Olog-hai

Once in a while he gets it right. I wish it were more often.


11 posted on 08/08/2014 8:23:29 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Olog-hai

While its good to have people that can poke China in the eye, this seems rather stupid if it only empowers other communists.


13 posted on 08/08/2014 8:25:16 AM PDT by mylife
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To: Olog-hai

Bomb, bomb, bomb Vietnam
Bomb, bomb, bomb Vietnam
Heh, heh. Just kidding.

18 posted on 08/08/2014 8:27:21 AM PDT by McGruff (Hey America, Hows that Hopey Changey Thingy workin out for ya?)
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To: Olog-hai

McCain must own massive amounts of weapon company stocks.


21 posted on 08/08/2014 8:32:24 AM PDT by apoxonu
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To: Olog-hai
Whars Olives Oyls? Skeeten ditten didly bo! Ughh Ughh Ughh...


22 posted on 08/08/2014 8:36:13 AM PDT by mylife
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend?..................


29 posted on 08/08/2014 8:41:42 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Olog-hai

Okay, I’m down with that, only if they allow sales of Garands(from Korea) and Saiga.


34 posted on 08/08/2014 8:52:56 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Olog-hai

I have zero idea of the facts behind this one. Also, McCain is typically an idiot. That being said, we eventually became trading partners AND allies with Germany, japan, Italy, etc.

I just don’t know.


35 posted on 08/08/2014 8:53:00 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Olog-hai

Geeze


46 posted on 08/08/2014 11:53:23 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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The Senator from Arizona is starting to sound like static and breakup in the broadcast.
47 posted on 08/08/2014 3:21:33 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Olog-hai; WildHighlander57; hoosiermama; LucyT; crosslink

“The Republican and former prisoner of war in Vietnam said his position on easing the ban further has nothing to do with China’s recent deployment of an oil rig in a disputed part of the South China Sea. China has been more assertive on its maritime claims and could be angered by closer military ties between Vietnam and the United States.

Russia is Vietnam’s main source of armaments, and Vietnam has earmarked hundreds of millions of dollars to build more vessels to improve its maritime capability.”

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This is interesting... may give some insight into McCain strategies.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:AmKn0Og13zsJ:wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/136/136561_Azerbaijan_PR_Brief.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari

Project Overview
The strategy lies in tackling both Azerbaijan’s political and economic issues as well as its
image at multiple levels. The timing can be different for each level although some may
run simultaneously. Others depend on prior steps being underway.

The various arms include:

1. Public Relations arm
2. Lobbying arm
3. Think-tank and academic arm
4. Government arm
5. Business development arm

PR Message - Political

Azerbaijan is a U.S. ally. It fights in our wars alongside our soldiers – Iraq, Afghanistan,
Bosnia.

Azerbaijan is a strategic partner for the U.S. caught geographically between Russia and
Iran. The US needs a strong Caucasus.

Azerbaijan is a secular Islamic state and one of the few Moslem nations that is pro-West.
It is also an ally of Israel. (Think of Egypt of the Caucasus).

Armenia has much support in the US but it is allied with Russia and sells weapons to Iran
(Source: 2003 US Embassy Cable from Negroponte, Wikileaks)
Political Challenges

Iran & Armenia

Armenians have well developed psyops media and lobbying plan

Iranians have well developed media psyops program against Azerbaijan

Takes hundreds of youth ages 16-20 each year to educate in Iran

Puts pressure on Azerbaijan and doesn’t like its secularism

Broadcasts criticism of Azerbaijan on its media into Az and to Azeris living in

Iran – TV station Sahar 2 and 2 radio stations criticizing Az in Iran.

Az has had no help from the US against Iranian propaganda through broadcasting

Az has no history of IT psyop warfare & communications

Az has problems of location and of human rights issues regardeing elections- but
Armenia’s human rights record is worse. Progressing past these issues in Az.
US/West

Az is being alienated from the West. There are 3 developments that have made a big
negative impact on Az:

1. Nogorno-Karabakh: The West is supporting Armenia not Azerbaijan.

2. Baku-Tbilisi-Kars (Turkey) Railway: US and EU are not supportive of the railway.
US said Az doesn’t need this connection. Cannot connect Central Asia to Europe by
rail because of Armenia. $250 million has been provided by Az (SOFAZ) for
building the railway that will benefit not only Az but Georgia, Turkey and the EU.
Az sees Georgia as a strategic partner. Turkey and Az want to build the railway so
the flow of goods and people can move between the Caspian and the EU.

3. Turkey-Armenian Border: Opening has nothing to do with Nagorno-Karabakh (N-

K) All Turkish presidents and MPs have stated they would close the frontier with
Armenia because of N-K. Recently Turkey said they were going to open the border
but a week ago, after an outcry from Az, they have said they will not open the border
unless N-K issue was resolved.

3

PR Message - Economic

Azerbaijan is a developing country with a lot of money from oil revenues to invest

Unlike most sovereign wealth funds, the State Oil Fund of Azerbaijan (SOFAZ) is still
growing strongly and looking for more foreign risk. SOFAZ:

By saving returns on investments the oil funds can become equal to revenue
from oil by 2024-25.

Az has already received $50 billion from oil revenues and expects $250-300
billion more over the coming years

This year SOFAZ will send $7.5-8 billion to the state budget; $500,000 is spent
on education abroad, railway and pipeline projects

$25b is invested outside the country. 50% of $25b is invested in US dollars,
40% in Euro, 5% in UK pound, 5% in other currencies

Wants to buy equity in companies through funds. Also looking at private
equities. Exposure hedged by investing in many asset classes. Equities are
priority now, then private equities and eventually real estate. Only worried about
rate of return. Never lost money - $300 million made in 2008 (mostly bonds).

By 2025 Azerbaijan wants to be a high tech country rather than an oil country:

Every 3 years AZ doubles its IT structure

It’s weak in export of IT products and wants to attract high tech companies

It’s in talks with Micosoft to build a center in Az and it’s working with Intel and
HP – for National PC.

They will spend 2 years funding this project through Booze Allen and Hamilton

Recommended Strategy

Azerbaijan needs support in Congress – a senator like Georgia has in McCain and
Armenia has in Barbara Boxer (see below for more details)

Texas is a natural partner for Azerbaijan due to the oil business ties in Houston –
need to build these relationships and make them more visible and stronger
politically as well as in business

Need to find the right PR/Lobbyist firm

Business development relationships – Invite firms to participate in round-table with
Minister of IT and Communications on May 26 in Los Angeles then to attend their
Telecommunications & information Technologies conference in November 2011 .

Need to find a military supplier for equipment and weapons they need

We can help build out the think-tank and academic relationships but again starting
with Texas – UT, LBJ School etc.

(snip)

Key Figures

Barbara Boxer

In 1991 Boxer was among the first Congressional Members to travel to Armenia as part
of a human rights fact-finding mission to personally assess the situation there. Before the
trip a newspaper article noted that “Boxer has been a consistent advocate of the Armenian
people, urging her colleagues to pass the Day of Remembrance resolution
commemorating the April 24, 1915, genocide and to condemn human rights violations
against Armenians.” It is not clear how far back this support goes, but it clearly predates
this trip. Her then congressional district does not appear to have a particularly strong
Armenian presence.

She has been a vocal advocate for Section 907, which puts restrictions on U.S. assistance
to Azerbaijan stating that the country’s blockade of Armenia and Karabagh had
devastating effects.

In 2003, Senator Boxer was a cosponsor of bipartisan legislation to establish normal trade
relations with Armenia. President Bush established permanent normalized trade relations
with Armenia in 2005.

Mitch McConnell

A major backer of Armenian causes in Congress is Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell.
He has helped steer high amounts of earmarks and mandatory allocations toward
Armenia and Ukraine. In fact, in some years, Armenia has been second only to Israel
as the largest beneficiary per capita of U.S. aid. McConnell does most of his
fundraising away from Kentucky, in major coastal cities where Armenian Americans and
other ethnic groups are most politically active.

(snip)

McCain and Georgia

One of Sen. John McCain’s top foreign-policy advisers is Randy Scheunemann of OrionStrategies. As a foreign-policy aide to then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott in 1997, Mr.Scheunemann accompanied Sen. McCain on a trip to the newly independent former Sovietrepublic. At a dinner, Sen. McCain first met Mr. Saakashvili, who had been a law student inWashington, and was then a young reform-minded Georgian parliamentarian, Mr. Scheunemannsaid (Link). This first visit gave way to a friendship between the Senator’s advisor and the rest ofMcCain’s party. McCain traveled to Georgia several times after that and met with PresidentSaakashvili in Georgia in 2006.

(snip - more at link)

http://www.usacc.org/about-us/leadership/honorary-council-of-advisors.html

James A. Baker, III

Zbigniew Brzezinski

Henry Alfred Kissinger

Lieutenant General Brent Scowcroft, USAF (Ret.)

John Sununu

Former members:

Richard Armitage

Dick Cheney

Previously posted:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323423804579024452583045962.html

The Saudi ambassador, Mr. Jubeir, has long been courting members of Congress who could pressure the administration to get more involved in Syria. He found early support from Republican Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

(snip)

Mr. Petraeus in mid-2012 won White House approval to provide intelligence and limited training to Syrian rebels at the base, including in the use of arms provided by others. Saudi and Jordanian agents began vetting the fighters to be trained, said Arab diplomats and a former U.S. military official.

Prince Bandar has largely stayed out of Washington but held meetings with U.S. officials in the region. One was in September 2012. Sens. McCain and Graham, who were in Istanbul, met him in an opulent hotel suite on the banks of the Bosporus.

Mr. McCain said he made the case to Prince Bandar that the rebels weren’t getting the kinds of weapons they needed, and the prince, in turn, described the kingdom’s plans. The senator said that in succeeding months he saw “a dramatic increase in Saudi involvement, hands-on, by Bandar.”

(more at link)


48 posted on 08/09/2014 6:09:40 AM PDT by maggief
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I wonder how invested McCain is with companies making weaponry for war? He is always pushing for arming everyone, except Americans, of course.


51 posted on 08/09/2014 6:13:16 AM PDT by dforest
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