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To: rellimpank

That was a shockingly non-anti-gun article from the Chicago Tribune. I was expecting something along the lines of “we can hold back the tide! Drink more Kool Aid!” Instead, he pointed out some of the benefits of concealed carry.

On problem I had was with his characterization of a concealed carrier shooting a fleeing armed robber as a “misuse.” I don’tknow the original story, but it sounds like he was justified from the article. If he hadn’t then the robber could have gotten away and harmed more people. That a cop had to take cover could suggest that the concealed carrier wasn’t aware of his surroundings, but it could also just mean the cop wasn’t aware of the concealed carrier. I’m pretty sure that in general cops don’t get too upset when citizens help them out.


4 posted on 08/03/2014 6:10:42 AM PDT by lcms rev
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To: lcms rev

There were 82 shootings in Chicago alone during 4th of July...in 84 hr period that weekend...then 12 more on MON and TUES...this past week - a guy that was demoted in the Bank of America building working for a tech company - shot the CEO, but were apparently friends??? - and then they guy committed suicide...that’s just what was reported this past 30 days....

Chicago is out of control - $68 Billion in debt - just raise TAXES...and they know that anti-gun isn’t going to work...police are overwhelmed in this city...I’m leaving at the end of the month - I’ve had enough of the traffic, taxes, and danger just getting into the Loop every morning and trying to get out at the end of the day...commuting in/out is just crazy...


5 posted on 08/03/2014 6:29:39 AM PDT by BCW (Amazon Books: "Babylon's Covert War" - the Iraq conflict explained in detail - by JH White)
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To: lcms rev
I’m pretty sure that in general cops don’t get too upset when citizens help them out.

My son is a cop in an Illinois city (Not Chicago), he has long been an advocate of concealed and open carry for ordinary, law abiding citizens, he says, he'll take all the help he can get.

8 posted on 08/03/2014 6:47:02 AM PDT by Graybeard58 ( A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10,v 19)
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To: lcms rev

In NC you can only apply deadly force if you or your loved ones are subject to death, bodily harm or rape. One the threat is stopped, you must cease fire. Further action could put you at risk for murder. You cannot go running down the street firing 33 rounds from your Glock 17 at a guy who stole your wallet.


21 posted on 08/03/2014 7:55:13 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: lcms rev
On problem I had was with his characterization of a concealed carrier shooting a fleeing armed robber as a “misuse.” I don’tknow the original story, but it sounds like he was justified from the article.

I'm a CCW holder here in Illinois, and I assume Chapman was referring to the law here in Illinois, and what we CCW holders resposibilities are prior to shooting.

Going through the required CCW training here in IL, one is specifically instructed that if a perpetrator is in the act of FLEEING once confronted by an armed CCW holder, the CCW holder *must* let the perpetrator go.

For example, if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night and I paint them with my laser and they turn to flee my house, I have to let them go. Shooting anyone in the act of removing themselves from the scene is not considered a "good shoot" here in Illinois.

Don't anyone bitch at me about that --- that's just what the law says. I personally don't agree with it, but I have to abide by it.

25 posted on 08/03/2014 9:16:37 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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