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1 posted on 07/20/2014 6:23:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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it’s definitely a strange story. Very fishy


2 posted on 07/20/2014 6:25:31 PM PDT by equalator
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When will they release the pilots religion?

Why did he suddenly feel 'uncomfortable' flying the route that many jets had flown in the previous hours and turn directly into the dangerous part of the no fly zone.

3 posted on 07/20/2014 6:27:51 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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The routing has been commented on, but only a little. Who sets the route? Air traffic control? Does the pilot have a choice?


4 posted on 07/20/2014 6:27:59 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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So it’s THEIR fault?!


5 posted on 07/20/2014 6:28:06 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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Something stinks about this. Just like something stuck about the last Malaysian airliner incident.


7 posted on 07/20/2014 6:33:44 PM PDT by dforest
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Paging Lois Lerner’s IT person.


9 posted on 07/20/2014 6:35:34 PM PDT by Ken H
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I think your map there is showing the airspace over Ukraine AFTER the shootdown — not before.


11 posted on 07/20/2014 6:40:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Next month I am scheduled to fly from Zürich to Hong Kong. This article make curious and I went to a site (Flight Aware) that track flights for Swiss International and they have been flying south over the Black Sea for the last couple of weeks.

The Malaysia flight has been flying pretty consistently over the Ukraine, venturing pretty close to where the flight was shot down. Today’s flight went WAY south, skirting northern Turkey.


14 posted on 07/20/2014 6:49:30 PM PDT by Gamecock (There is room for all of God's animals. Right next to the mashed potatoes and gravy.)
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There was a Singapore Airline only 15 miles from them when shot down, and 58 flights had flown over that same area in the past 24 hours.

A Singapore Airlines passenger plane was flying just 15 miles away when flight MH17 was shot down.

This new data emerged as security experts warned that with thousands of Britons unwittingly flying over the Ukraine each week and one said: ‘It could so easily have been one of ours.’

18 posted on 07/20/2014 6:58:18 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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NOT to Worry leading brain surgeon... theologian.... and vietnam war vet .......John Jphn Kerry will most certainly get to the bottom of this one too....


22 posted on 07/20/2014 7:15:13 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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I had heard on Thursday or Friday that there were storms to the south and planes were being assigned to this more northerly flight path. Has anything new been released on that?
23 posted on 07/20/2014 7:16:49 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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Someone mentioned, I think here at FR, that Malay Air flew over the war zone to save gas. They are in or close to bankruptcy, so chose the shortest route in spite of the dangers. The regular route would have cost them more for fuel.

Lawsuits from MH370 are pushing them toward or HAVE pushed them into bankruptcy. Now they’ll be out of business forever.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 7:19:31 PM PDT by Veto! (OpInions freely dispensed as advice)
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Anybody want to buy my two tickets on Malaysia Air?


25 posted on 07/20/2014 7:22:53 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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I have also read reports that the Identify Friend or Foe (IFF) was not functioning.

No IFF + off course would prima facie indicate a hijacking.

After 9/11/01 no responsible government can afford that risk, especially for an aircraft originating from a Muslim nation.

26 posted on 07/20/2014 7:23:54 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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This article is rubbish. And so are a great many of the comments. This plane was flying a perfectly ordinary route, and was avoiding the southern route as it WAS covered by a notam cautioning pilots away from the Crimean penninsula as well as the Sea of Azov.


32 posted on 07/20/2014 7:33:10 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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MH-17 was directly on the great-circle course from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was shot down. Anyone can prove this with a globe and a piece of string. (Hold one end of the string on Amsterdam and the other on Kuala Lumpur, pull it tight, and see where it crosses the Ukraine.)


37 posted on 07/20/2014 7:48:02 PM PDT by zot
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Ok..this could get very ugly..

Because the flight path over that area could of been directed by Ukraine flight control...

So why directed in to a hot area not on normal flight path?

To try to trigger some incident for political gain?. testing defence?


48 posted on 07/20/2014 8:46:35 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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Ok..this could get very ugly..

Because the flight path over that area could of been directed by Ukraine flight control...

So why directed in to a hot area not on normal flight path?

To try to trigger some incident for political gain?. testing defence?


49 posted on 07/20/2014 8:48:07 PM PDT by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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And of course if you listen/watch RT you learn that the tape of the “separatists” bragging about having shot down the plane was doctored according to a specialist they consulted and that the pictures of the launcher from which the shot supposedly came wasn’t taken where it was reported to have been - according to RT the whole tragedy is a Ukraine plot to discredit Russia - strange indeed.....


50 posted on 07/20/2014 9:00:24 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Putin’s FR fanbois are busy dreaming up some way their heartthrob isn’t to blame for this mass murder.


69 posted on 07/21/2014 12:34:45 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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