[Rockitz]

I'm afraid there are still way too many who have learned nothing and will sacrifice their country for the defense of every last vestige of their principles. Leftist incrementalism has brought us to where we are now and conservative incrementalism can bring us back from this abyss.

[doug from upland]

A good example are those who believe their religion does not allow medical treatment. They stay true to their principles but their children die. We can and should fight for our principles. If our side does not win the day and our candidate of choice does not win the nomination, I am not going to sit out to teach a lesson and let the truly evil side prevail. If our flawed side wins, we fight them where they are wrong. I do not choose suicide.