Posted on 07/14/2014 7:45:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
Perfectly stated!
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“The debate hinges on whether or not we should change the definition of the fundamental natural and social institution.”
We can’t change the actual definition, that is beyond humanity’s power. The debate is about changing the state’s understanding of the fundamental natural and social institution even more then it ha already been mutated with serial civil divorce and remarriage. No one would even be having the debate if so many weren’t conditioned to think the state defines marriage. Pope Leo XIII warned about this happening 130 years ago.
Freegards
Definitely something was lost when governmental notions of marriage became bastardized.
But perhaps something has been gained too. To create a metaphor, people were too “married” to their governments. It was “my country, right or wrong.” Now the wrongness is becoming perfectly clear. Even many folks who may have liked the “gay marriage” in theory may not be so thrilled to see it in practice. The problem with engineering your own utopia is that you have to then live with it. Persistent sin will punish itself.
Jesus, Mary and Joseph, Holy Family pray for us.
Genesis 1
English Standard Version (ESV)
26 Then God said, “Let us make man[h] in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.
28 And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.” 29 And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food. 30 And to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the heavens and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.
I have been married 3 times, divorced twice. The first time, I was weak and ended up married to a woman who was not like me in personality or outlook. I thank God that she found someone that was more to her liking than I. The second wife was more compatible, but she was dishonest and misrepresented herself as a working person, when her only desire was to be sick and on disability. Fortunately, she and her mother didn’t like the kids I had from the first marriage.
If I had had to be committed to either of those women for a lifetime I would have gone mad or become alcoholic. I was fully prepared for the lifetime commitment, but they had other ideas. I am happy now with my wife, and I thank God every day that there is such a thing as divorce, although I will never use it again.
0bama promised the "fundamental transformation" of America.
He wasn't joking.
He's not an idiot, and he's not a "failed President".
He is absolutely evil; bound and determined to destroy America, to turn America into just another third-world hellhole. Everything he does is intended to further that goal, and he has been remarkably successful in his destructive mission.
Oh please!
I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you, but your gripes are a joke.
People like you ARE the reason the culture is degrading. Any excuse is a good one if the only person you need to convince is yourself.
Ping!
Excellent point.
And he is working towards ensuring his plans continue after he steps down.
The debate is about changing the state’s understanding of the fundamental natural and social institution even more then it ha already been mutated with serial civil divorce and remarriage.
...civil divorce and remarriage are nothing new...
No one would even be having the debate if so many weren’t conditioned to think the state defines marriage.
...and what kicked off this whole redefinition of marriage are estate tax code benefits accruing to spouses...absent that, and civil unions would have sufficed for the gay crowd...
You’re the perfect example of what’s wrong with marriage today. What the hell were you thinking when you married the first two?
The problem with marriage today is that people enter into it for the wrong reasons. Love is not a pre-condition to marriage; love is a promise within marriage. Romantic love ebbs and flows; it is not the basis for getting married.
When I got married about 20 years ago, I was not head-over-heals in love with my then girlfriend; I did not find her nearly as attractive sexually as my previous girlfriends. But after dating her for a year and having been exposed to her at her best and worst, I asked myself, “Is this a woman with whom I could spend the rest of my life with, and is this the woman who will raise my kids in the manner that I would want for them?” Bingo!
And I continue to fulfill my promise to her to love and honor her, no matter how much I might hate her at times, lol.
“...civil divorce and remarriage are nothing new...”
No fault divorce is pretty new, isn’t it? I think Reagan signed the first one into law as governor of CA.
“...and what kicked off this whole redefinition of marriage are estate tax code benefits accruing to spouses...absent that, and civil unions would have sufficed for the gay crowd...”
If that was the case we wouldn’t we be seeing comparatively large numbers of gays marrying in the state’s where they can do so? I think what kicked off the whole redefinition of marriage thing is the ability to be able to use the state to punish those who they know will never buy into it. It’s the stick they will never have to put down.
FReegards
The problem with engineering your own utopia is that you have to then live with it
...no you don’t...if you are capable of ‘engineering’ your own utopia, you are also capable of making changes to it, so that ‘utopia’ is whatever you want it to be at any time, thus ensuring perpetual satisfaction...our homosexual friends are the perfect example of that in action, what with progression from civil unions to marriage equality...
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