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Court rules 'dreamers' can get Arizona driver's licenses
East Valley Tribune ^ | July 7, 2014 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 07/07/2014 2:23:53 PM PDT by fifedom

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To: Gen.Blather

And a cnn rep just said that the term illegal is the new “n” word.


41 posted on 07/07/2014 3:29:00 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: catnipman

Agree. The issuance of state driver licenses is subject to various state laws.

After having FL driver license for 35 years, I recently had to show a US birth certificate to renew.

As you said, AZ should refuse, it would violate their laws.


42 posted on 07/07/2014 3:35:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: GeronL

Motor voter. Give them a license and a voter registration at the same time.


43 posted on 07/07/2014 3:37:02 PM PDT by dforest
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I had to show proof of citizenship to get my AZ license 2 months ago. I used my US passport. My wife had to show proof of permanent residency. This makes me think that the DMV will drop these requirements after this decision, but who will make that order?

We’ll see how it plays out. My wife was not allowed to apply for voter registration at the DMV. I was allowed to apply with my US passport.


44 posted on 07/07/2014 3:42:31 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: AlmaKing

Found my answer:

‘The court ordered U.S. District Court Judge David Campbell, who had initially denied an injunction on behalf of the dreamers, to direct the state Department of Transportation to provide licenses to those who are in that program.’


45 posted on 07/07/2014 3:44:04 PM PDT by AlmaKing
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To: Ray76

The Federal Gov’t set new standards for State Drivers Licenses via the Real ID Act. If the States don’t meet the requirements, residents of that State cannot use a drivers license as ID for domestic flights. The court’s decision violates the Real ID Act because it forces the State of Arizona to violate the new standards. Starting January 2015, Arizona residents will need a Passport to board a domestic flight.


46 posted on 07/07/2014 3:46:07 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: fifedom

Message to Arizona, just don’t do it,

that’s what obama and the dems do.


47 posted on 07/07/2014 3:46:31 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (liberalism is a cancer that destroys everything it gets control of.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Yep, there is no congressional or AZ statute, but only an Obama executive order behind the Ninth Circus’ decision.

The Framers called it arbitrary government, poison to a republic.

48 posted on 07/07/2014 3:51:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V)
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To: fifedom; All
Please consider the following constitutional problems concerning "government" power to dictate driver's license policy in the context of immigration. To begin with, as mentioned in related threads, and politically correct interpretations of the Constitution's uniform Rule of Naturalization aside (Clause 4 of Section 8 of Article I), the states have never delegated to Congress, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate immigraton. This is evidenced by the following excerpt from Thomas Jefferson's writings where he clarified that fact in terms of the 10th Amendment nonetheless.
“4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that “the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the — day of July, 1798, intituled “An Act concerning aliens,” which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force [emphasis added].” —Thomas Jefferson, Draft of the Kentucky Resolutions - October 1798.

And since the states have likewise never amended the Constitution to grant Congress the specific power to decide driver's license qualifications, the 10th Amendment also automatically reserves such power uniquely to the states, not the feds.

In fact, the Supreme Court has clarified about the 10th Amendment that powers not delegated by the states to the feds expressly via the Constitution are prohibited to the feds.

”From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added].” —United States v. Butler, 1936.

The bottom line is that the idea that the feds can regulate drivers licenses based on constitutionally nonexistant power to regulate immigration begs the question as to where some judges went to law school.

49 posted on 07/07/2014 4:49:02 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: fifedom

another court passing a law against the representatives of the people.


50 posted on 07/07/2014 4:51:30 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Mastador1

The 9th circus is back to being the 9th circus we’ve come to know and love, and damn the rest of us.


51 posted on 07/07/2014 4:54:25 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Open Borders, pro-terrorist, Fast and furious, VA, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Ray76

Thank you. That is what I needed to see!


52 posted on 07/07/2014 4:55:53 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Waryone

Rick Scott is a fool. And so is Will Weatherford.


53 posted on 07/07/2014 5:03:53 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
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To: fifedom

And I’m sure they will ALL be insured because they follow the law so well right? AND I’m sure Arizona allows same day voter registration with a ‘valid’ government issued ID. RIGHT?


54 posted on 07/07/2014 5:43:05 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: GeronL
Does a license get one the vote?

Can you say,"Motor Voter?"

55 posted on 07/08/2014 10:37:18 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: catnipman

Arizona should tell them to go get their license from the feds then. And let every law enforcement office know that a federal driver’s license is NOT valid in Arizona.

The Fed has no business in the issuance of a state license for anything (marriage, driving, fishing, hunting etc).


56 posted on 07/11/2014 9:30:17 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: cumbo78; Ray76
Arizona is not in compliance with Real ID.

Some states are compliant. Some states have been granted extensions because they moving towards compliance. Some states are non-compliant.

Countdown to Real ID

57 posted on 07/24/2014 4:52:17 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Jacquerie
"I recently had to show a US birth certificate to renew"

Because Florida is Real ID compliant. Follow the link in reply 57 for more info.

58 posted on 07/24/2014 4:57:10 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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