Neither am I
Both wars were won until El-Presidente surrendered. So, were they worth it in the end, of course not. They would have been had Obama not thrown away our victories.
Foreign policy is considerably larger and more complex than just getting into wars and excursions.
It’s been my opinion since the get go that we should have taken out Al Qaeda in Afghanistan (as we did at the time) and then gotten out within months.
Similar thought on our Iraq nightmare. Take out Hussein without a effin year’s advance notice, clean out the WMDs, which were indeed there before the year’s advance notice (lunacy). Installed a western friendly head of state and left.
This whole neocon notion of nation building is utter crap and self destructive imperialism.
Sadly, although I supported Paul in the beginning, he has revealed himself to be another open borders politician. If there is one thing that turns me into a single issue voter, it’s border control and US sovereignty. They are sacrosanct - no compromise. Without those nothing else follows because there is no Republic.
We don’t have to be supporters of Rand Paul to argue that the Iraqi and Afghani wars were badly played out. I believe that Bush entered them in good faith, but they were poorly executed, mainly due to trying to build democracies in their place. They honestly did NOT understand that the ME has NO IDEA what democracy is, nor is it touted very highly in the Quran. Had they done their homework, they’d have opted for a stealth takedown of the leaders that are the blame for the mess in the ME, then they’d have left the country to sort it out...sort of like what is happening now, but it’s much uglier than it needed to be.
As for Rand Paul, he started out talking conservative, a different breed than his dad, but he has “evolved, if you will, into a double-tongued freak. He seems to support both tea party and establishment, coming closer to the establishment all the time, and less tea party. He doesn’t want us to notice, of course, so he speaks like a conservative at the beginning of issues, then switches sides before he votes. He is a snake in the grass. I’ve been watching him because we have donated a lot to him, but NO MORE! LIke I said, he is a snake in the grass! Beware!
This is a great example of illogic, how to distort or misrepresent.
e.g.
“According to a June Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, “58% of the Republican respondents said the war in Afghanistan wasn’t worth it, compared with the 37% who said it was.” In just a year’s time 21 percent more people believe that war in Afghanistan wasn’t worth it.”
When the current administration decides to let the Taliban take over again, the answer to whether it was worth it changes.
Paul rolled over on illegal immigration. He is unelectable.
Rand is a clown and surrogate for his daddy.
The Paul foreign policy is the just the other extreme, no better than Bush neocon way.