Posted on 07/02/2014 2:31:04 AM PDT by markomalley
Have we already covered this? Its new to me,not too surprised however.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/06/20/the-u-s-trained-terrorist-group-isis-in-2012/
“The U.S. will for decades be reaping the whirlwind of its incompetent and insanely stupid ‘divide and conquer’ plan in the Muslim World.” Jack D. Douglas, former sociologist at the University of California
…by Jonas E. Alexis
jewish_zionists_and_iraq_warTrouble is still brewing in Iraq, and the neoconservatives are once again on the front line saying that we ought to “liberate” the country by sending more troops and attacking the Frankensteinian terrorist monster (ISIS) they themselves had helped create. Saddam, those neoconservatives told us, was the new Hitler on the block and had to go.[1]
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ERUSALEM – Members of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, or ISIS, were trained in 2012 by U.S. instructors working at a secret base in Jordan, according to informed Jordanian officials.
The officials said dozens of ISIS members were trained at the time as part of covert aid to the insurgents targeting the regime of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Syria. The officials said the training was not meant to be used for any future campaign in Iraq.
The Jordanian officials said all ISIS members who received U.S. training to fight in Syria were first vetted for any links to extremist groups like al-Qaida.
In February 2012, WND was first to report the U.S., Turkey and Jordan were running a training base for the Syrian rebels in the Jordanian town of Safawi in the country’s northern desert region.
That report has since been corroborated by numerous other media accounts.
Last March, the German weekly Der Spiegel reported Americans were training Syrian rebels in Jordan.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-jordan/#M5Rki297VJ0rkC50.99
If you haven’t seen this video, it explains a lot about what is taking place regarding Islam, the Caliphate and the Mahdi.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ&feature=youtu.be
Also, Walid Shoebat’s site has an article up about why Al-Baghdadi can’t be the Mahdi or at least would not be the best “fit”. http://shoebat.com/2014/06/30/emerging-caliph-iraq-antichrist/
Thanks for the links..
OK..thanks..got it....but then, doesn’t the Mahdi have to come BEFORE the Caliph?..after all...there’s no Pope before Jesus..
I believe the Mahdi is like the Second Coming. The Caliph minds the store, so to speak, and then the Mahdi comes and ushers in a glorious age when all the infidels get their heads cut off. Or something.
The Caliphate was in place until about 1922 or 24. It started back in the 7th century and had its ups and downs. The Ottoman Emperor was a separate office and ended at about the same time. But I believe a distinction needs to be made between a more secular power (like the Ottoman Empire or a resurgent Persian Empire) and a more religious power base such as as the Caliphate.
Of course, Islam muddies things by not making a sharp distinction between political and religious matters — for them it’s kind of the same thing.
So, I believe there can be overlap between the concepts, but with the declaration of a new Caliphate, Muslims are trying to unify believers as best they can, while not necessarily trying to breakdown the divisions between Arab nation states and forming a unified political front. Doing both simultaneously would be very hard indeed.
Before ISIS gets a grand victory, they will have to deal with Russian Pilots and now Iranian pilots flying the Su-25 Frogfoot planes.
It is a safe bet that none of Obozo’s ROE’s for our warriors in danger will apply to the Russian and Iranian pilots. Their orders will be simple, kill the Isis serial killers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3174935/posts
Exclusive: Putin’s Pilots Set to Fly Over Iraq
The Daily Beast ^ | 07/01/14 | Josh Rogin
Russia may not have boots on the ground in Iraq—yet. But it will have them in the sky; Russian pilots could be flying over Iraq within days. While the Obama administration struggles to speed up delivery of U.S. military assistance to the government of Iraq, Vladimir Putin has already delivered not only fighter jets but also the pilots needed to fly them, diplomatic sources told The Daily Beast.
On Monday, Russian television trumpeted the arrival of the first five of 12 promised Sukhoi Su-25 combat fighter jets to the Iraqi government, saying it had also sent “trainers” to help the Iraqis use them. Gen. Anwar Hama Ameen, the commander of the Iraqi Air Force, told The New York Times the fighter jets would enter the battle against ISIS within a few days, after which the Russian trainers would leave Iraq. He said Iraq had plenty of pilots with “long experience” flying the Su-25. The Russian ambassador to Iraq also said Russian pilots would not fly missions inside Iraq.
Perhaps. But diplomatic sources told The Daily Beast that Russian pilots will fly the planes due to a lack of Iraqi pilots with the proper training. Neither Russia nor Iraq as explained how the Iraqi air force could possibly have pilots trained and ready to fly the Russian fighters. The Su-25 planes were used in the Iraq-Iran war but have not been employed in Iraq since at least 2002, when Iraq’s military was controlled by the Baathist regime of Saddam Hussein.
The news below, indicates that Iran has deployed its 7 SU 25’s to Iraq.
These planes will be flown by Iranian Pilots and serviced by Iranians
http://theaviationist.com/2014/07/01/iranian-su-25-iraq/
By David Cenciotti
Seven Su-25 Frogfoot attack planes operated by the Iranian Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution have arrived at Baghdad to join the war against ISIS militants.
On Jul. 1, all the seven operational Su-25 Frogfoot attack planes operated by the Pasdaran (informal name of the IRGC – the Army of the Guardians of the Islamic Revolution) have completed their deployment to Imam Ali Airbase where they will join the ex-Russian Air Force Su-25s already delivered to Iraq in the air war against ISIS (Al Qaeda-linked Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant).
BTTT!
Thank, BO, for your part in re-establishing the caliphate.
We do so appreciate your hard work towards this goal that you hold so near and dear.
/s
The terrorists won the war on terror.
SB —> ISIS could not have taken Baghdad. Not because of the Iraqi army, rather because of the Shia militia
Also the Arabs did not like it that the Turks ruled over them and that's going to be exacerbated now. So there will be a 3 way tussle: Sunni Arabs v/s Sunni Turks v/s Irani groups (Persians, Kurds, Baluchis etc) + Shia groups (Twelvers like the Iraqi Shia Arabs or fivers like Ismailis or other groups like the Alevis)
I don't know where non-Sunni and non-Shia groups like the Ibadis (Oman) or Druze will play
“SB —> ISIS could not have taken Baghdad. Not because of the Iraqi army, rather because of the Shia militia”
Perhaps. That is indeed the current wisdom - as presented by the folks who said “who’a, we didn’t see that coming”, lol :)
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